Charles City looking to form new conference after racial issues

[everyyard]

Just an FYI - Waverly Shell-Rock was voted out for just one reason: because they are significantly larger in enrollment than the other school districts, which has made it harder for the conference to recruit other, smaller schools to join the NEIC.
This was a numbers issue - WSR is too big - not a racism one. Anyone with any knowledge of the situation knows that.

I am familiar with it, and you are right. It was about size and fit and some smaller schools were being courted by other conferences to join. But, don’t think for a minute that WSR’s long-standing racist behavior and ******* entitled fans didn’t make this a VERY easy vote for the rest of the conference. WSR is going to have a hard time finding a landing spot because the other conferences know their reputation and won’t be welcoming them with open arms. They will likely need the state to help place them.

 

[cyfanatic13]

I think the NEICs list has to be North Fayette Valley, Sumner-Fredericksburg and Denver to get back to 8 for now and then figure out two more schools to get to a nice round 10.

I don't see SF and Denver leaving the NICL as that conference appears to be on pretty solid footing. I don't know much about SF so them leaving wouldn't shock me, but I do know a few current Denver coaches and admins and they are pretty close and good friends with others at schools in the NICL and would be very surprised if they ever left

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Kind of my first reaction. Waverly is significantly larger than Charles City. I don't know what the rest of the conference is.

Charles city is closer in size to Waverly than it is to New Hampton, Waukon or Cresco.

 

[BCClone]

New Hampton and Waukon (to name two) - the two smallest schools in the conference - have been getting feelers from other conferences lately. They want to stay in the NEIC and expand. You can't get other like-sized schools to join with a school as large as WSR in it.

Since Decorah voted to boot them it must mean they have a 3/8 rule. Any school that is 3/8 bigger than the other schools should be bounced. So north Fayette valley is not an option since I read they are under 268 for a BEDS. Or is Decorah not going to worry about their hypocrisy?

Why not check with the two small schools and see if they can go to the NCC which would be similar sized and then grabbed Waterloo East and other similar sized ones.

For a few of these schools to boot one school, and if they consider a summer or Osage it is then being a bunch or rear ends.

 

[BCClone]

Charles city is closer in size to Waverly than it is to New Hampton, Waukon or Cresco.

Denver has a beds of 192, half the NEIC conference ( with WSR there) is over twice their size.

 

[everyyard]

Since Decorah voted to boot them it must mean they have a 3/8 rule. Any school that is 3/8 bigger than the other schools should be bounced. So north Fayette valley is not an option since I read they are under 268 for a BEDS. Or is Decorah not going to worry about their hypocrisy?

Why not check with the two small schools and see if they can go to the NCC which would be similar sized and then grabbed Waterloo East and other similar sized ones.

For a few of these schools to boot one school, and if they consider a summer or Osage it is then being a bunch or rear ends.

There is no rule. Smaller schools were going to leave if WSR stayed. Decorah voted to save the conference. Like I said above, there is no love lost for WSR, going back decades.

 

[BCClone]

There is no rule. Smaller schools were going to leave if WSR stayed. Decorah voted to save the conference. Like I said above, there is no love lost for WSR, going back decades.

I know there is no rule. Just making the point that when the other the smaller schools loose some more size and the third and fourth largest schools shrink a little. Decorah should not be surprised when they get booted out. If I was in a school district growing, I wouldn’t touch that conference, get too big and you will be gone.

I’m no fan of WSR, but don’t like it when schools start pouting about a school growing too much and get rid of them. If they would have said it was due to racial issues or stuff like that, no biggie. If strictly size, ISU could/should have been booted from the big XII back in the mid 90s when our budget wasn’t even a fraction of the top guys. Teams turning on each other over money and size within a conference is never a good look.

 

[everyyard]

I know there is no rule. Just making the point that when the other the smaller schools loose some more size and the third and fourth largest schools shrink a little. Decorah should not be surprised when they get booted out. If I was in a school district growing, I wouldn’t touch that conference, get too big and you will be gone.

I’m no fan of WSR, but don’t like it when schools start pouting about a school growing too much and get rid of them. If they would have said it was due to racial issues or stuff like that, no biggie. If strictly size, ISU could/should have been booted from the big XII back in the mid 90s when our budget wasn’t even a fraction of the top guys. Teams turning on each other over money and size within a conference is never a good look.

If WSR was a team player who knows, maybe the smaller schools wouldn’t have been so interested in booting them or leaving, but they weren’t. They have been arrogant ******** for decades and people weren’t going to put up with them being 3 times the size and ******** to boot. Fact is, there was no choice. Either they went, or the small schools were going. Given the choice of VERY large travel changes or sticking with the other schools, it was a no-brainer for Decorah. Decorah isn’t near the outlier WSR was size-wise.

 

[everyyard]

I know there is no rule. Just making the point that when the other the smaller schools loose some more size and the third and fourth largest schools shrink a little. Decorah should not be surprised when they get booted out. If I was in a school district growing, I wouldn’t touch that conference, get too big and you will be gone.

I’m no fan of WSR, but don’t like it when schools start pouting about a school growing too much and get rid of them. If they would have said it was due to racial issues or stuff like that, no biggie. If strictly size, ISU could/should have been booted from the big XII back in the mid 90s when our budget wasn’t even a fraction of the top guys. Teams turning on each other over money and size within a conference is never a good look.

Also, no one else is growing in NE iowa, including Decorah.

 

[BCClone]

If WSR was a team player who knows, maybe the smaller schools wouldn’t have been so interested in booting them or leaving, but they weren’t. They have been arrogant ******** for decades and people weren’t going to put up with them being 3 times the size and ******** to boot. Fact is, there was no choice. Either they went, or the small schools were going. Given the choice of VERY large travel changes or sticking with the other schools, it was a no-brainer for Decorah. Decorah isn’t near the outlier WSR was size-wise.

Wondering, do you see any issues with Decorah (no bone against them, they just happen to be the next biggest school) saying WSR is too big (with 38% more than us)to compete with so let’s get Denver who we have 124% the population of?

 

[BCClone]

Also, no one else is growing in NE iowa, including Decorah.

Some are shrinking faster than others though.

 

[everyyard]

Wondering, do you see any issues with Decorah (no bone against them, they just happen to be the next biggest school) saying WSR is too big (with 38% more than us)to compete with so let’s get Denver who we have 124% the population of?

No issues with what Decorah is actually saying, “if WSR isn’t voted out then half the conference is leaving.” No-brainer.

 

[BCClone]

No issues with what Decorah is actually saying, “if WSR isn’t voted out then half the conference is leaving.” No-brainer.

Where were they going and why wouldn’t it be better if it was dissolved? With only 6 schools it is the smallest conference. Obviously at 3 least of the teams had other homes. Probably could have blended 1-2 more in and left WSR that way.

What happens if no other teams have accepted? It would be foolish if they don’t already have yes answers from 3 others.

 

[everyyard]

UIC Extends Invitation to New Hampton, Cresco-Crestwood, Waukon to Join - KCHA News

The Upper Iowa Conference (UIC) has extended official invitations to three current Northeast Iowa Co

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[everyyard]

UIC Extends Invitation to New Hampton, Cresco-Crestwood, Waukon to Join - KCHA News

The Upper Iowa Conference (UIC) has extended official invitations to three current Northeast Iowa Co

kchanews.com

These are the 3 schools closest to Decorah. Decorah voted their own interest.

 

[Tornado man]

If WSR was a team player who knows, maybe the smaller schools wouldn’t have been so interested in booting them or leaving, but they weren’t.

Well, those other schools are sure going to miss the gate receipt $$ that they counted up when Waverly came to town...betcha some of the athletic directors counted on it.

 

[everyyard]

Well, those other schools are sure going to missing the gate receipt $$ that they counted up when Waverly came to town...

No one is going to miss anything about WSR. Money isn’t everything. WSR made their bed.

 

[Tornado man]

I’m no fan of WSR, but don’t like it when schools start pouting about a school growing too much and get rid of them.

Amen. It's a bad look.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Well, those other schools are sure going to miss the gate receipt $$ that they counted up when Waverly came to town...betcha some of the athletic directors counted on it.

$10’S OF DOLLARS!!!!!

 

[Al_4_State]

This sounds like something that needs to be handled within the conference rather than forming a new one. Pretty sure that WSR does not have racist policies in place that promote this behavior. In the end it is almost always a individual or two that cause racial issues, so it is better to deal with them then to try and rebuild from the ground up. Start by removing and banning anyone yelling racist comments. It is a shame that this kind of crap still goes on.

It’s more than the racist incident. That was just the final straw. Waverly has been notorious for poor sportsmanship for years, and WSR has always been considerably bigger than the other schools in the conference.