Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

I think the freaking out is due to the fact that high dollar boosters can just buy players from other programs now. "Oh, that's a nice freshman you have there, I think we'll buy him now. Thanks for the effort peasant".

Sure, ISU has benefited from transfers, but this is different.

Yeah...I've been saying we should be doing this since the NIL was implemented. We should have someone on staff who is just scouting mid-major teams and having boosters put out feelers to the best players that we identify. We aren't the bottom of the food chain just because there's a handful of programs above us, there's a whole lot more below us.
 
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Is it a better strategy to go play the transfer portal for young players versus recruiting a lot of high school talent in 2022 and beyond? We still need to be recruiting local preps, but if there are 5 scholarships open in 2023. DO you allocate 2 for freshman and the rest to transfers?

If someone has already used their 1 time waiver.. They have to sit out a year to transfer again, right? Wouldn't that make one-time, younger transfers more desirable for committing to ISU long term?
 
Just to add on to this a skoosh - in one of the general threads on this topic, I gave the example of Breece Hall. CMC finds a guy, brings him in, showcases his talents and he is all conference. Wow!

Then Texas (or Georgia, or whoever) says "Hey this kid is good, let's go give him $1M and he can play for us".
This appears to be exactly what is happening with Hunter.

I honestly don't see NIL killing football like it is basketball. Player development is crucial in order to even get a sniff at the NFL where the NBA is drafting on potential.
 
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That's a horrible analogy. That implies he did nothing for Iowa State while here. He came here, competed hard and helped take us to a Sweet 16. There's no sense acting like "we made Tyrese Hunter".

I'm not saying we made Tyrese, but if he wasn't worth $750,000 (or whatever the rumor is) out of high school and he is now, doesn't ISU have some sort of role in that? Could he have been practicing and working out at the YMCA and still gotten paid?

In my example, when I got my MBA, I certainly worked hard for that. And I like to think the company got a benefit from my education. But if I were to want to leave my company within 5 years, I still owed them money for that tuition regardless of how much benefit they had already received.
 
Is it a better strategy to go play the transfer portal for young players versus recruiting a lot of high school talent in 2022 and beyond? We still need to be recruiting local preps, but if there are 5 scholarships open in 2023. DO you allocate 2 for freshman and the rest to transfers?

If someone has already used their 1 time waiver.. They have to sit out a year to transfer again, right? Wouldn't that make one-time, younger transfers more desirable for committing to ISU long term?

Or start redshirting or reducing minutes of guys that you want to develop I guess. If a coach sees a freshman center that he thinks could be a great player once he gets some muscle built up, should he play him or just have him ride the bench so no one knows about him?
 
Thank you for admitting that all those kids were robbed as well

You and many others already don’t put your money in. Never complain about losses again

How were they robbed? Nothing was stolen from them. You are arguing over whether they should have received more benefits. NIL money is to come from the fans. Pay up if you want. My priorities of kids and grandkids is much more important than paying some athletes additional compensation. Never have complained. We made the donations to pay for the new Stadium back in the 1970’s. We made the donations for all the amenities to make our athletes better and more comfortable. There is no Culture without the fans. We built the infrastructure.
 
I'm not saying we made Tyrese, but if he wasn't worth $750,000 (or whatever the rumor is) out of high school and he is now, doesn't ISU have some sort of role in that? Could he have been practicing and working out at the YMCA and still gotten paid?

In my example, when I got my MBA, I certainly worked hard for that. And I like to think the company got a benefit from my education. But if I were to want to leave my company within 5 years, I still owed them money for that tuition regardless of how much benefit they had already received.
We fired the coach he came here to play for, so we can just call it even maybe.
 
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I'm not saying we made Tyrese, but if he wasn't worth $750,000 (or whatever the rumor is) out of high school and he is now, doesn't ISU have some sort of role in that? Could he have been practicing and working out at the YMCA and still gotten paid?

In my example, when I got my MBA, I certainly worked hard for that. And I like to think the company got a benefit from my education. But if I were to want to leave my company within 5 years, I still owed them money for that tuition regardless of how much benefit they had already received.

Tyrese wasn't some schlub when he came here. He was a Top 40 recruit. I'd venture to guess if he'd gone elsewhere he'd still find himself in a similar position.

I also think it's funny to act like he didn't bring $750,000 worth of value back to the University/program.
 
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Any insight on the contract terms of these NIL deals? Are they required to play at said university for X years?
 
This response seems to leave out the vast majority of pro-NIL people, including myself, who didn't claim it would be good for college athletics but supported it because these kids deserve to be paid what they are worth.

It stinks for Iowa State, and I get that. But at the end of the day these kids that are getting paid are cashing in on their skills/abilities in a line of work where your skills/abilities can be fleeting. They deserve to be compensated their market rate just like any other business out there. And if that creates some harsh realities for Iowa State, I guess it is what it is for me.

We've found ways to be competitive when things were competitively unbalanced before. We will do it again. It's not like a star freshman haven't been poached by bigger schools before. Wesley Johnson. Shawn Taggert. It happened pre-NIL too.
The problem with this stance is their value is 100% conditional on people still watching. If people just stop watching their value is $0.

If we see schools poaching people not in the portal for money then this next season is likely my last supporting Iowa State financially. I’ll likely still watch but I’m not going to focus my life around it like I have. The thing is I’m a die hard fan. What about all of the casual fans that are going to lose interest. Why should they watch semi-pro sports when they could watch professional sports.

My stance on paying players has been and remains that no one should be prohibited from playing professionally. Looking at you NBA and NFL, but if you want to play college sports then you are agreeing to play amateur sports. If you want to do some true NIL stuff ok but you are signing up for college sports. The model we should look to is college baseball. You want to go pro go ahead but if you are coming to college your going to college.
 
Listen to the latest CF podcast with Chris and Blum. They basically come out and say it's about being paid for NIL

NIL is likely the biggest factor, but I'd guess D-Rob moving on and being on a team with an offensive identity that may not highlight your strengths for the next level probably played some role too.
 
Thank you for admitting that all those kids were robbed as well

You and many others already don’t put your money in. Never complain about losses again
No one was robbed. All the benefits these guys get as scholarship athletes should be enough. As someone who has experienced these benefits they were more than enough and things are even better now.
 

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