Why won't Jamie Pollard schedule any P5 schools other than Iowa?

[CyclonesForever]

I've always thought our schedule was boring. I know we have Iowa in-state, which takes up a non-conference game; however, every single year it's Iowa, FCS opponent (80% of the time UNI) and then a Mountain West/Sun Belt/MAC team. I took a look at all the scheduled non-conference games for each of the 8 schools remaining in the Big 12 and honestly, was beyond frustrated seeing it. I can't be the only one who thinks this right?

Baylor:

• 2022 @ BYU
• 2023 vs Utah
• 2024 @ Utah
• 2025 vs Auburn
• 2026 @ Auburn
• 2027 vs Oregon
• 2028 @ Oregon

Iowa State:

• 2022 @ Iowa
• 2023 vs Iowa
• 2024 @ Iowa
• 2025 vs Iowa

Kansas:

• 2022 @ Houston
• 2022 vs Duke
• 2023 vs Illinois
• 2023 vs Houston
• 2024 @ Illinois
• 2025 @ Missouri
• 2026 vs Missouri
• 2027 @ Washington State
• 2028 vs Washington State
• 2029 @ Virginia
• 2030 vs Virginia
• 2031 @ Missouri
• 2032 vs Missouri

Kansas State:

• 2022 vs Missouri
• 2023 @ Missouri
• 2024 vs Arizona
• 2025 @ Arizona
• 2026 vs Washington State
• 2027 @ Colorado
• 2028 vs Colorado
• 2029 @ Washington State
• 2030 vs Rutgers
• 2031 @ Rutgers

Oklahoma State:

• 2022 vs Arizona State
• 2023 @ Arizona State
• 2024 vs Arkansas
• 2025 @ Oregon
• 2026 vs Oregon
• 2027 @ Arkansas
• 2028 vs Alabama
• 2029 @ Alabama
• 2032 vs Arkansas
• 2033 @ Arkansas
• 2034 @ Nebraska
• 2035 vs Nebraska
• 2036 vs Colorado
• 2037 @ Colorado

TCU:

• 2022 @ Colorado
• 2023 vs Colorado
• 2024 @ Stanford
• 2025 @ North Carolina
• 2026 vs North Carolina
• 2027 vs Stanford
• 2028 @ Duke
• 2029 vs Duke
• 2030 vs Purdue

Texas Tech:

• 2022 vs Houston
• 2022 @ NC State
• 2023 vs Oregon
• 2024 @ Oregon
• 2025 vs Oregon State
• 2026 @ Oregon State
• 2027 vs NC State
• 2028 @ Mississippi State
• 2029 vs Mississippi State
• 2030 vs Arkansas
• 2031 @ Arkansas
• 2034 vs Arizona

West Virginia:

• 2022 @ Pitt
• 2022 @ Virginia Tech
• 2023 @ Penn State
• 2023 vs Pitt
• 2024 vs Penn State
• 2024 @ Pitt
• 2025 vs Pitt
• 2026 vs Alabama
• 2027 @ Alabama
• 2028 vs Tennessee (Charlotte, NC)

 

[BCClone]

We won’t schedule 11 P5s

 

[CloniesForLife]

Our conference schedule is hard enough. Ws look good at the end of the year

 

[isutrevman]

We don't want to play 11 P5 games every year. If we go back to 8 conference games after realignment it might be possible to add another non-conference P5 opponent.

I think it's incredibly rare for P5 schools to play more than one non-conference game against another P5 team.

 

[Stewo]

Because we're stuck in the CyHawk Series. Until we either move on from that or move back to 8 conference games, it'll always only be Iowa.

 

[isutrevman]

Our conference schedule is hard enough. Ws look good at the end of the year

This is exactly right. In a P5 conference, for the most part, the number of wins is all that matters, not who you beat.

 

[cyclonepower]

I would be ok going 1 on 1 off with but I know people lose there mind when talking about not playing Iowa every year

 

[BryceC]

Why won't he schedule another P5 team? Because it would be foolish to do so.

 

[CyclonesForever]

Our conference schedule is hard enough. Ws look good at the end of the year

And 6 straight losses to Iowa, losing at home by 17 to Louisiana in 2020 and loss to UNI in 2015 (3OT win in 2018) is much better?

 

[BryceC]

I would be ok going 1 on 1 off with but I know people lose there mind when talking about not playing Iowa every year

I'm all for dropping the series, I absolutely hate it. But I know I'm in the minority.

 

[cycloneG]

And 6 straight losses to Iowa, losing at home by 17 to Louisiana in 2020 and loss to UNI in 2015 (3OT win in 2018) is much better?

I'm all for dropping Iowa from the schedule to add a different P5 school.

 

[RonBurgundy]

I've always thought our schedule was boring. I know we have Iowa in-state, which takes up a non-conference game; however, every single year it's Iowa, FCS opponent (80% of the time UNI) and then a Mountain West/Sun Belt/MAC team. I took a look at all the scheduled non-conference games for each of the 8 schools remaining in the Big 12 and honestly, was beyond frustrated seeing it. I can't be the only one who thinks this right?

Baylor:

• 2022 @ BYU
• 2023 vs Utah
• 2024 @ Utah
• 2025 vs Auburn
• 2026 @ Auburn
• 2027 vs Oregon
• 2028 @ Oregon

Iowa State:

• 2022 @ Iowa
• 2023 vs Iowa
• 2024 @ Iowa
• 2025 vs Iowa

Kansas:

• 2022 @ Houston
• 2022 vs Duke
• 2023 vs Illinois
• 2023 vs Houston
• 2024 @ Illinois
• 2025 @ Missouri
• 2026 vs Missouri
• 2027 @ Washington State
• 2028 vs Washington State
• 2029 @ Virginia
• 2030 vs Virginia
• 2031 @ Missouri
• 2032 vs Missouri

Kansas State:

• 2022 vs Missouri
• 2023 @ Missouri
• 2024 vs Arizona
• 2025 @ Arizona
• 2026 vs Washington State
• 2027 @ Colorado
• 2028 vs Colorado
• 2029 @ Washington State
• 2030 vs Rutgers
• 2031 @ Rutgers

Oklahoma State:

• 2022 vs Arizona State
• 2023 @ Arizona State
• 2024 vs Arkansas
• 2025 @ Oregon
• 2026 vs Oregon
• 2027 @ Arkansas
• 2028 vs Alabama
• 2029 @ Alabama
• 2032 vs Arkansas
• 2033 @ Arkansas
• 2034 @ Nebraska
• 2035 vs Nebraska
• 2036 vs Colorado
• 2037 @ Colorado

TCU:

• 2022 @ Colorado
• 2023 vs Colorado
• 2024 @ Stanford
• 2025 @ North Carolina
• 2026 vs North Carolina
• 2027 vs Stanford
• 2028 @ Duke
• 2029 vs Duke
• 2030 vs Purdue

Texas Tech:

• 2022 vs Houston
• 2022 @ NC State
• 2023 vs Oregon
• 2024 @ Oregon
• 2025 vs Oregon State
• 2026 @ Oregon State
• 2027 vs NC State
• 2028 @ Mississippi State
• 2029 vs Mississippi State
• 2030 vs Arkansas
• 2031 @ Arkansas
• 2034 vs Arizona

West Virginia:

• 2022 @ Pitt
• 2022 @ Virginia Tech
• 2023 @ Penn State
• 2023 vs Pitt
• 2024 vs Penn State
• 2024 @ Pitt
• 2025 vs Pitt
• 2026 vs Alabama
• 2027 @ Alabama
• 2028 vs Tennessee (Charlotte, NC)

Your list is deceiving. ISU plays Iowa each year. Several of the schools you listed above are also just playing 1 P5 school a year. The length you listed of each school's schedule gives the appearance that ISU is not playing as tough a schedule, but I see very few "extra" P5 games with the exception of WVU.

 

[isutrevman]

And 6 straight losses to Iowa, losing at home by 17 to Louisiana in 2020 and loss to UNI in 2015 (3OT win in 2018) is much better?

You should e-mail Pollard. There's a decent chance he'll respond. No joke.

 

[cyclone87]

Pretty simple we would have to not play Iowa if you wanted to play another P5 otherwise it makes our schedule probably the toughest in the country. Iowa, UNI, and P5 is not a good schedule. Need to work on things early in the season, don't want to throw the team into the frying pan right away.

 

[JM4CY]

I'm all for dropping Iowa from the schedule to add a different P5 school.

Like Texas………

 

[MartyFine]

I've always thought our schedule was boring. I know we have Iowa in-state, which takes up a non-conference game; however, every single year it's Iowa, FCS opponent (80% of the time UNI) and then a Mountain West/Sun Belt/MAC team. I took a look at all the scheduled non-conference games for each of the 8 schools remaining in the Big 12 and honestly, was beyond frustrated seeing it. I can't be the only one who thinks this right?

Baylor:

• 2022 @ BYU
• 2023 vs Utah
• 2024 @ Utah
• 2025 vs Auburn
• 2026 @ Auburn
• 2027 vs Oregon
• 2028 @ Oregon

Iowa State:

• 2022 @ Iowa
• 2023 vs Iowa
• 2024 @ Iowa
• 2025 vs Iowa

Kansas:

• 2022 @ Houston
• 2022 vs Duke
• 2023 vs Illinois
• 2023 vs Houston
• 2024 @ Illinois
• 2025 @ Missouri
• 2026 vs Missouri
• 2027 @ Washington State
• 2028 vs Washington State
• 2029 @ Virginia
• 2030 vs Virginia
• 2031 @ Missouri
• 2032 vs Missouri

Kansas State:

• 2022 vs Missouri
• 2023 @ Missouri
• 2024 vs Arizona
• 2025 @ Arizona
• 2026 vs Washington State
• 2027 @ Colorado
• 2028 vs Colorado
• 2029 @ Washington State
• 2030 vs Rutgers
• 2031 @ Rutgers

Oklahoma State:

• 2022 vs Arizona State
• 2023 @ Arizona State
• 2024 vs Arkansas
• 2025 @ Oregon
• 2026 vs Oregon
• 2027 @ Arkansas
• 2028 vs Alabama
• 2029 @ Alabama
• 2032 vs Arkansas
• 2033 @ Arkansas
• 2034 @ Nebraska
• 2035 vs Nebraska
• 2036 vs Colorado
• 2037 @ Colorado

TCU:

• 2022 @ Colorado
• 2023 vs Colorado
• 2024 @ Stanford
• 2025 @ North Carolina
• 2026 vs North Carolina
• 2027 vs Stanford
• 2028 @ Duke
• 2029 vs Duke
• 2030 vs Purdue

Texas Tech:

• 2022 vs Houston
• 2022 @ NC State
• 2023 vs Oregon
• 2024 @ Oregon
• 2025 vs Oregon State
• 2026 @ Oregon State
• 2027 vs NC State
• 2028 @ Mississippi State
• 2029 vs Mississippi State
• 2030 vs Arkansas
• 2031 @ Arkansas
• 2034 vs Arizona

West Virginia:

• 2022 @ Pitt
• 2022 @ Virginia Tech
• 2023 @ Penn State
• 2023 vs Pitt
• 2024 vs Penn State
• 2024 @ Pitt
• 2025 vs Pitt
• 2026 vs Alabama
• 2027 @ Alabama
• 2028 vs Tennessee (Charlotte, NC)

You think any of these teams above have any interest in a trip to Jack Trice Stadium? JTS reputation is on the same level as Hilton at this point.

 

[CyclonesForever]

I don't buy the argument that it's cus we're stuck using a non-conference spot for Iowa when other states have the exact same issue and they continue to schedule P5 opponents other than their in-state rival.

Georgia Tech:

• 2022
  • vs Ole Miss
  • @ UCF
  • @ Georgia
• 2023
  • @ Ole Miss
  • vs Georgia
• 2024
  • vs Notre Dame
  • @ Georgia
• 2025
  • @ Colorado
  • vs Georgia
• 2026
  • vs Colorado
  • @ Georgia
• 2027
  • @ Notre Dame
  • vs Georgia
• 2028
  • @ Georgia
• 2029
  • @ Notre Dame
  • vs Georgia
• 2030
  • vs Alabama
  • @ Georgia
• 2031
  • @ Alabama
  • vs Georgia

Louisville

• 2022
  • @ UCF
  • @ Kentucky
• 2023
  • vs Indiana (Indianapolis)
  • vs Kentucky
  • vs Notre Dame
• 2024
  • vs Indiana
  • @ Kentucky
  • @ Notre Dame
• 2025
  • @ Indiana
  • vs Kentucky
• 2026
  • vs Georgia
  • @ Kentucky
  • @ Notre Dame
• 2027
  • @ Georgia
  • vs Kentucky
• 2028
  • @ Texas A&M
  • @ Kentucky
• 2029
  • vs Texas A&M
  • vs Kentucky

Utah

• 2022
  • @ Florida
• 2023
  • vs Florida
  • @ Baylor
• 2024
  • vs BYU
  • vs Baylor
• 2025
  • @ BYU
• 2026
  • @ Houston
  • vs Arkansas
  • vs BYU
• 2027
  • vs Houston
  • @ BYU
• 2028
  • vs BYU
  • @ Wisconsin
• 2029
  • @ Arkansas
• 2030
  • vs BYU
• 2031
  • vs LSU
• 2032
  • @ LSU
• 2033
  • vs Wisconsin

 

[CloniesForLife]

And 6 straight losses to Iowa, losing at home by 17 to Louisiana in 2020 and loss to UNI in 2015 (3OT win in 2018) is much better?

Exactly why we don't want to schedule more P5....

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

I don't buy the argument that it's cus we're stuck using a non-conference spot for Iowa when other states have the exact same issue and they continue to schedule P5 opponents other than their in-state rival.

Georgia Tech:

• 2022
  • vs Ole Miss
  • @ UCF
  • @ Georgia
• 2023
  • @ Ole Miss
  • vs Georgia
• 2024
  • vs Notre Dame
  • @ Georgia
• 2025
  • @ Colorado
  • vs Georgia
• 2026
  • vs Colorado
  • @ Georgia
• 2027
  • @ Notre Dame
  • vs Georgia
• 2028
  • @ Georgia
• 2029
  • @ Notre Dame
  • vs Georgia
• 2030
  • vs Alabama
  • @ Georgia
• 2031
  • @ Alabama
  • vs Georgia

Louisville

• 2022
  • @ UCF
  • @ Kentucky
• 2023
  • vs Indiana (Indianapolis)
  • vs Kentucky
  • vs Notre Dame
• 2024
  • vs Indiana
  • @ Kentucky
  • @ Notre Dame
• 2025
  • @ Indiana
  • vs Kentucky
• 2026
  • vs Georgia
  • @ Kentucky
  • @ Notre Dame
• 2027
  • @ Georgia
  • vs Kentucky
• 2028
  • @ Texas A&M
  • @ Kentucky
• 2029
  • vs Texas A&M
  • vs Kentucky

Utah

• 2022
  • @ Florida
• 2023
  • vs Florida
  • @ Baylor
• 2024
  • vs BYU
  • vs Baylor
• 2025
  • @ BYU
• 2026
  • @ Houston
  • vs Arkansas
  • vs BYU
• 2027
  • vs Houston
  • @ BYU
• 2028
  • vs BYU
  • @ Wisconsin
• 2029
  • @ Arkansas
• 2030
  • vs BYU
• 2031
  • vs LSU
• 2032
  • @ LSU
• 2033
  • vs Wisconsin

The ACC and SEC only play 8 conference games so don't use them as a benchmark.

 

[8bitnes]

Your list is deceiving. ISU plays Iowa each year. Several of the schools you listed above are also just playing 1 P5 school a year. The length you listed of each school's schedule gives the appearance that ISU is not playing as tough a schedule, but I see very few "extra" P5 games with the exception of WVU.

The list had a combined 74 seasons on it. Of those, the OP only had 5 (6.7%) where a school had two opponents. Three of those were Houston who are not currently in a P5. So, the OP's example had 2/74 seasons (2.7%) with double booked P5 opponents.

The OP list confirms that Iowa State schedules like it's peers. In fact, possibly harder since Iowa is regularly a top20 team in September.