WILLIAMS: Analyzing Iowa State’s NCAA Tournament situation after a big week

1 more win has us firmly in the tournament. But I think we win 2 or 3 of the next 4. We're getting hot at the right time.
Regardless of NET, etc. I have a tough time believing a 6-12 team gets into the NCAA Tournament. The Big 12 isn't that good.

Wednesday is key because WVU is in LAST PLACE and we are playing in Hilton. Losing to WVU would be a bad loss. I won't be comfortable until we win 8 Big12 games. Anything less and Selection Sunday could be nerve wracking for me.
 
Regardless of NET, etc. I have a tough time believing a 6-12 team gets into the NCAA Tournament. The Big 12 isn't that good.

Wednesday is key because WVU is in LAST PLACE and we are playing in Hilton. Losing to WVU would be a bad loss. I won't be comfortable until we win 8 Big12 games. Anything less and Selection Sunday could be nerve wracking for me.
THE NON-CON COUNTS. Why do people ignore that.
 
Regardless of NET, etc. I have a tough time believing a 6-12 team gets into the NCAA Tournament. The Big 12 isn't that good.

Wednesday is key because WVU is in LAST PLACE and we are playing in Hilton. Losing to WVU would be a bad loss. I won't be comfortable until we win 8 Big12 games. Anything less and Selection Sunday could be nerve wracking for me.

What the hell are you talking about?
 
Trying to matchup with a team vs. making them match up was always quite the approach.
I could’ve done without the reminder that Prohm was a ****** Coach. His shining moments against big 10 teams in the tournament we’re Exhibits A and B.
 
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Regardless of NET, etc. I have a tough time believing a 6-12 team gets into the NCAA Tournament. The Big 12 isn't that good.

Wednesday is key because WVU is in LAST PLACE and we are playing in Hilton. Losing to WVU would be a bad loss. I won't be comfortable until we win 8 Big12 games. Anything less and Selection Sunday could be nerve wracking for me.

Did I just read “The Big 12 isn’t that good.?”
 
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Regardless of NET, etc. I have a tough time believing a 6-12 team gets into the NCAA Tournament. The Big 12 isn't that good.

Wednesday is key because WVU is in LAST PLACE and we are playing in Hilton. Losing to WVU would be a bad loss. I won't be comfortable until we win 8 Big12 games. Anything less and Selection Sunday could be nerve wracking for me.

And yet, every single piece of empirical, objective data states that it actually is pretty damn good.
 
What the hell are you talking about?
The Big12 is the best conference this year, but it's not like the Big12 is historically great that a 6-12 or maybe even a 7-11 team is going to make the tournament. Going 13-0 in the non-con gives ISU a leg up, but
THE NON-CON COUNTS. Why do people ignore that.

Not ignoring it. Just think when you get a bunch of reps for other Conferences in a room, trying to explain that a 6-12 team in conference play (and 19-12 overall) deserves an NCAA Berth is a tough sell. Especially, when these other P5 reps will be pushing their own teams that are .500 or above in conference and 19+ wins.

Also, if ISU finishes 6-12, in the Big12 Tournament we'll play KU, TT or Baylor in the first round.

IMO the Big12 is the best conference this year, but historically we are no better than Big10 or ACC Conferences in prior years. People like to bring up Orr's Cyclone team that went something like 5-9. But that season we finshed 4th or 5th in an 8 team conference.
 
The Big12 is the best conference this year, but it's not like the Big12 is historically great that a 6-12 or maybe even a 7-11 team is going to make the tournament. Going 13-0 in the non-con gives ISU a leg up, but



People like to bring up Orr's Cyclone team that went something like 5-9. But that season we finshed 4th or 5th in an 8 team conference.
6th, beat 3 seed Missouri in the quarters.
 
The Big12 is the best conference this year, but it's not like the Big12 is historically great that a 6-12 or maybe even a 7-11 team is going to make the tournament. Going 13-0 in the non-con gives ISU a leg up, but


Not ignoring it. Just think when you get a bunch of reps for other Conferences in a room, trying to explain that a 6-12 team in conference play (and 19-12 overall) deserves an NCAA Berth is a tough sell. Especially, when these other P5 reps will be pushing their own teams that are .500 or above in conference and 19+ wins.

Also, if ISU finishes 6-12, in the Big12 Tournament as we'll play KU, TT or Baylor in the first round.

IMO the Big12 is the best conference this year, but historically we are no better than Big10 or ACC Conferences in prior years. People like to bring up Orr's Cyclone team that went something like 5-9. But that season we finshed 4th or 5th in an 8 team conference.

Take a good look at how 1/2 of the B1G and ACC are doing this season.

It doesn't matter where the Big 12 sits historically.

THIS season, a losing record in the conference can get you in THIS year's tournament.

Why do people seem to hate the prospect of a rag tag group like ISU getting extra basketball?
 
The Big12 is the best conference this year, but it's not like the Big12 is historically great that a 6-12 or maybe even a 7-11 team is going to make the tournament. Going 13-0 in the non-con gives ISU a leg up, but


Not ignoring it. Just think when you get a bunch of reps for other Conferences in a room, trying to explain that a 6-12 team in conference play (and 19-12 overall) deserves an NCAA Berth is a tough sell. Especially, when these other P5 reps will be pushing their own teams that are .500 or above in conference and 19+ wins.

Also, if ISU finishes 6-12, in the Big12 Tournament we'll play KU, TT or Baylor in the first round.

IMO the Big12 is the best conference this year, but historically we are no better than Big10 or ACC Conferences in prior years. People like to bring up Orr's Cyclone team that went something like 5-9. But that season we finshed 4th or 5th in an 8 team conference.
You are ignoring, because you're basing what you're saying on the conference record
 
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Got the rest of the Big 12 season figured out, folks. We're gonna win 3 of our last 4 games and finish with an 8-10 conference record. We'll end up as the 5th place team in the conference and a 7 seed in the dance. Could be a little optimistic, but I have a feeling we'll be playing our best basketball over the next few weeks.


Current StandingTeamCurrent RecordRemaining GamesPope's Projected
Final Record
(Final Standing)
1Kansas11-2Kansas State
@ Baylor
@ TCU
TCU
Texas
15-3 (1)
2Baylor10-4@ Oklahoma State
Kansas
@ Texas
Iowa State
14-4 (2/3)
3Texas Tech10-4Okahoma
@ TCU
Kansas State
@ Oklahoma State
14-4 (2/3)
4Texas8-6TCU
@ West Virginia

Baylor
@ Kansas
10-8 (4)
Tie: 5Kansas State6-8@ Kansas
Iowa State
@texas Tech
Oklahoma
7-11 (6/7/8)
Tie: 5Oklahoma State6-8Baylor
@ Oklahoma
@ Iowa State
Texas Tech
7-11 (6/7/8)
7Texas Christian5-7West Virginia
@ Texas
Texas Tech
Kansas
@ Kansas
@ West Virginia
7-11 (6/7/8)
8Iowa State5-9West Virginia
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State

@ Baylor
8-10 (5)
9Oklahoma4-10@ Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
West Virginia

@ Kansas State
5-13 (9)
10West Virginia3-10@ TCU
@ Iowa State
Texas
@ Oklahoma
TCU
3-15 (10)

Oklahoma State is ineligible so we'd move up to #7.

Playing Baylor at #2 is actually pretty attractive, at least to me --

Second time in a row we'd play them.

They're down one of their best players. Probably concentrating on staying healthy going into the NCAA tournament rather than interested in playing another three games in KC.

After that, the bracket opens up. Wouldn't say we'd win it, but that's a favorable draw.
 
The Big12 is the best conference this year, but it's not like the Big12 is historically great that a 6-12 or maybe even a 7-11 team is going to make the tournament. Going 13-0 in the non-con gives ISU a leg up, but


Not ignoring it. Just think when you get a bunch of reps for other Conferences in a room, trying to explain that a 6-12 team in conference play (and 19-12 overall) deserves an NCAA Berth is a tough sell. Especially, when these other P5 reps will be pushing their own teams that are .500 or above in conference and 19+ wins.

Also, if ISU finishes 6-12, in the Big12 Tournament we'll play KU, TT or Baylor in the first round.

IMO the Big12 is the best conference this year, but historically we are no better than Big10 or ACC Conferences in prior years. People like to bring up Orr's Cyclone team that went something like 5-9. But that season we finshed 4th or 5th in an 8 team conference.
If only there was a committee with pre-established criteria that happens to include a bunch of stuff but NOT conference record or recency.
 

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