WILLIAMS: Analyzing Iowa State’s NCAA Tournament situation after a big week

Just my opinion, but I think 1 more win and we’re in Dayton. 2 more and we are solidly in the regular field.

I just don't think we are in dayton no matter what. If we get over the conference hump, the rest of the resume screams top 7 seed. The only reason we don't make the tourney is our conf. record.

I really feel that they have a really wide breadth in the set of criteria to try and consider to get in, but after a team makes it in they strip a lot of the labels away and evaluate the results in kind of a normalized way. They Don't have to worry as much about the "but what if we missed something" factor. Everyone gets a chance to prove it.

Once past the mental hurdle of conference record I think it gets written off in actual seeding.
 
Got the rest of the Big 12 season figured out, folks. We're gonna win 3 of our last 4 games and finish with an 8-10 conference record. We'll end up as the 5th place team in the conference and a 7 seed in the dance. Could be a little optimistic, but I have a feeling we'll be playing our best basketball over the next few weeks.


Current StandingTeamCurrent RecordRemaining GamesPope's Projected
Final Record
(Final Standing)
1Kansas11-2Kansas State
@ Baylor
@ TCU
TCU
Texas
15-3 (1)
2Baylor10-4@ Oklahoma State
Kansas
@ Texas
Iowa State
14-4 (2/3)
3Texas Tech10-4Okahoma
@ TCU
Kansas State
@ Oklahoma State
14-4 (2/3)
4Texas8-6TCU
@ West Virginia

Baylor
@ Kansas
10-8 (4)
Tie: 5Kansas State6-8@ Kansas
Iowa State
@texas Tech
Oklahoma
7-11 (6/7/8)
Tie: 5Oklahoma State6-8Baylor
@ Oklahoma
@ Iowa State
Texas Tech
7-11 (6/7/8)
7Texas Christian5-7West Virginia
@ Texas
Texas Tech
Kansas
@ Kansas
@ West Virginia
7-11 (6/7/8)
8Iowa State5-9West Virginia
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State

@ Baylor
8-10 (5)
9Oklahoma4-10@ Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
West Virginia

@ Kansas State
5-13 (9)
10West Virginia3-10@ TCU
@ Iowa State
Texas
@ Oklahoma
TCU
3-15 (10)
 
I just don't think we are in dayton no matter what. If we get over the conference hump, the rest of the resume screams top 7 seed. The only reason we don't make the tourney is our conf. record.

I really feel that they have a really wide breadth in the set of criteria to try and consider to get in, but after a team makes it in they strip a lot of the labels away and evaluate the results in kind of a normalized way. They Don't have to worry as much about the "but what if we missed something" factor. Everyone gets a chance to prove it.

Once past the mental hurdle of conference record I think it gets written off in actual seeding.

Bolded: if the conference record is 5-13, yes but that will just be not enough good wins overall.

Anything above may be either be on the tight rope or firmly in.
 
If we think we’re in and then somehow get screwed, the meltdown on here would be beyond comprehension.

If ISU gets two more wins while all along the way being projected in single-seed territory, the meltdown would be warranted.
 
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1 more win has us firmly in the tournament. But I think we win 2 or 3 of the next 4. We're getting hot at the right time.
I really do try to be as optimistic as possible, but any given night this team is completely capable of shooting 32% and only scoring 50 pts.

They had a bad loss at home to TCU, followed by a close, hard fought road win at Okie St, then an easy home win against Mizzou, but then played 4 bad games in a row.

The last of which was a bad home loss to KSt. They followed it with a close, hard fight win, then an easy home win. So let's hope they don't follow with a poor performance.
 
If we think we’re in and then somehow get screwed, the meltdown on here would be beyond comprehension.

If you say getting “screwed” by getting a seed somewhere in the 7-12 range. I’ll gladly take it. In some cases I’d rather be there than a low tier 3-4 seed. In the big dance I’d rather be the hunter, rather than the hunted. Unless you’re like Baylor was last year—absolutely dominant.
 
If you say getting “screwed” by getting a seed somewhere in the 7-12 range. I’ll gladly take it. In some cases I’d rather be there than a low tier 3-4 seed. In the big dance I’d rather be the hunter, rather than the hunted. Unless you’re like Baylor was last year—absolutely dominant.
Screwed meaning NIT bound. I think just getting in will appease many of the crowd regardless of seed.
 
I really do try to be as optimistic as possible, but any given night this team is completely capable of shooting 32% and only scoring 50 pts.

They had a bad loss at home to TCU, followed by a close, hard fought road win at Okie St, then an easy home win against Mizzou, but then played 4 bad games in a row.

The last of which was a bad home loss to KSt. They followed it with a close, hard fight win, then an easy home win. So let's hope they don't follow with a poor performance.
Being WV 2nd road game in 48 hours should increase our chances. Senior night is also a major plus. KST will be a dogfight if we come to play.
 
Being WV 2nd road game in 48 hours should increase our chances. Senior night is also a major plus. KST will be a dogfight if we come to play.

Not saying fatigue won’t be a factor for WVU. But we struggled with their press offensively in Morgantown.
 
If ISU gets two more wins while all along the way being projected in single-seed territory, the meltdown would be warranted.

Yeah, i think the important thing to note is that its not just ISU people predicting ISU to make the field at this point (in fact, many of them have been more confident about it than ISU fans!). If that holds through to selection day, it would be a case of almost everyone who looks at the resumes being at odds with the committee, and the meltdown would be well deserved.
 
1 more win has us firmly in the tournament. But I think we win 2 or 3 of the next 4. We're getting hot at the right time.

Is it just me...but I'm not buying this 1 more win thing. Yes, I get the Q1 wins really help and the big12 highly thought of , but I really think we HAVE to go at the least 7-11 in the conference. Otherwise there could be too many bubble teams and/or upsets in conf. tournaments to screw things up.
 
Is it just me...but I'm not buying this 1 more win thing. Yes, I get the Q1 wins really help and the big12 highly thought of , but I really think we HAVE to go at the least 7-11 in the conference. Otherwise there could be too many bubble teams and/or upsets in conf. tournaments to screw things up.

Please, for the love of God, look at all the other bubble teams and their resumes. None come close to what we've done.
 
Yeah, i think the important thing to note is that its not just ISU people predicting ISU to make the field at this point (in fact, many of them have been more confident about it than ISU fans!). If that holds through to selection day, it would be a case of almost everyone who looks at the resumes being at odds with the committee, and the meltdown would be well deserved.

Yeah I'm in full belief that two wins gets ISU in, but I'm still thinking like 10 or 12 seed and what a great thing for this group to achieve but this 6 or 7 seed talk is pretty wild.

I think the committee will like ISU just fine if those two wins happen.
 
I really do try to be as optimistic as possible, but any given night this team is completely capable of shooting 32% and only scoring 50 pts.

They had a bad loss at home to TCU, followed by a close, hard fought road win at Okie St, then an easy home win against Mizzou, but then played 4 bad games in a row.

The last of which was a bad home loss to KSt. They followed it with a close, hard fight win, then an easy home win. So let's hope they don't follow with a poor performance.

Yeah, Brockington was an All American yesterday, and you can't count on that every game. I did like the way that the team got way more aggressive on the offensive end when OU came out overplaying the passing lanes in the second half. Driving the ball instead of passing it around the horn until they have to jack up a shot or turn it over. Maybe they have righted the ship a bit. It is almost unbelievable how bad this team has shot in some games. Just hard to believe that guys that have devoted the last 12-15 or years of their lives to playing basketball can go 1 for 20 from 3 point land. Gabe really played within himself yesterday, and Walker adds a little more inside presence. We will see what they can do when WVU comes into town. Maybe ISU will get more calls in Hilton.
 
Yeah, Brockington was an All American yesterday, and you can't count on that every game. I did like the way that the team got way more aggressive on the offensive end when OU came out overplaying the passing lanes in the second half. Driving the ball instead of passing it around the horn until they have to jack up a shot or turn it over. Maybe they have righted the ship a bit. It is almost unbelievable how bad this team has shot in some games. Just hard to believe that guys that have devoted the last 12-15 or years of their lives to playing basketball can go 1 for 20 from 3 point land. Gabe really played within himself yesterday, and Walker adds a little more inside presence. We will see what they can do when WVU comes into town. Maybe ISU will get more calls in Hilton.

I was joking with someone today that we'll probably come out and shoot 15% on Wednesday.

While shooting as well as we did yesterday was probably a fluke, the offense was much, much better.
 

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