The worst thing is that I don't think Iowa's lofty ranking will even help us. If they just use it as quadrant wins it will actually hurt us.
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I think the NET really values offensive efficiency and whatever they are doing it seems to be counteracting Q1 wins factor.
Nope. If we would have lost we would have fallen 4 spots.
Depends on how you lose. Lose 96-90 with a mad push at the end in garbage time and you go up. People thought Fran was being ridiculous keeping rotation guys in blowing out Western Michigan or when the game is out of reach vs. Purdue and Wisconsin. But Fran has cracked the code.
I'm not even joking, Fran has figured out that a win is NOT a win and a loss is not a loss. We'll see how much it ends up helping with selection, but you can't tell me that high of a NET and KenPom will be completely disregarded on selection Sunday even if they end up 0-fer vs. quad 1.
You're probably right...those stats are important and should be in the mix BUT it's a road win...high QUAD 2 and you only gave up 51. You'd think the O and D stats would cancel out in this case...
It is what it is though...
The RPI used to piss me off....this isn't better. Shouldn't complain because it loves the Hawks.
I just like things to make sense though....
I get that but it doesn't hurt to be ranked high...be better if it was paired with QUAD 1 wins though. Most bracketology's have the Hawks between a 7-10 seed which obviously doesn't match the rankings.
In Kakerts breakdown he was saying your opponents NET actually means more then your ranking so the projected seeding makes sense.
Yes I think that's exactly true which is one of the many things I don't like about it. We have 0 quad 1 wins but based off those same rankings but we're number 19 which essentially only helps the 6 teams we've lost too. Imo either use it fully or don't at all. I'm of the believer it's broken but I don't think it should be used
I'm really skeptical that Iowa's KenPom and NET aren't going to elevate them pretty significantly. It's one thing if you are 0-5 vs. quad 1 and are in the 30s or 40s, or only one of the rankings was high. But both NET and KP really have the Hawks high.
Iowa and ISU are both going to be interesting cases, assuming neither does something totally unsurprising, good or bad.
I hope you're right my fear is the opposite and they're much more firmly on the bubble than we might think. There's still a lot of important games but if season ended today I think we would be something a long lines of last 4 byes. They tend to hammer power 5 teams with 0 quality wins.
They also very nearly lost to Nebraska. Weird team to try and figure out. Seems they still have a lot of pieces from their tourney team from last year, so they probably should be as decent as they are. Probably underachieved to a big extent first part of the year.
TCU is #57 so 18 spots into a Q1 win. Not much danger of that W falling to Q2 status.
One of the weirdest resumes I've ever seen. Not sure why they underachieved to start the year. They have a very solid roster.
The starters were all out of the game with 12+ minutes remaining in the second half against Western Michigan. I'm curious when you think they should have been pulled? Sitting them for an entire half doesn't really seem like a great idea. Iowa's bench guys played almost as many minutes as the starters. Fran never has Keegan, Jordan, etc. still in the game anywhere near the end of a blowout.
That was a tough game for them to lose the other night. A look at their upcoming schedule:
I'm not sure their NET could really take too much of a beating though, given who they'll be playing, even if they actually do get beat for the majority of this stretch. 4 games in a week with the first one being Texas Tech is going to be brutal for them I feel.
I could swear I've seen him leave guys in til the final minutes of blowouts. Easy to confuse Kris Murray for Keegan Murray if you're not really paying attention though.
Seems like they've had Ron Harper's kid for as long as the Hawks have had Jorbo.