Throwing downfield needs more that Dekkers arm

blood94

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2010
203
326
63
i have multiple people post about allowing dekkers to throw the ball down field more. It takes much more that Dekkers arm. The biggest thing is that the offensive line has to give Dekkers time to throw. Alot of downfield routes take time to devolpe . if the offensive line cant give him more time to throw then he will be seeing more turf than open throws. i think that is why you didnt brock throw as much down field as we wanted him to . i think the coaching staff just understood that this line couldnt give him the time to do that
 
Here we go.

Many of Purdy's interceptions were under thrown balls downfield. The receiver was turned into a defensive back. Looked like a punt a lot of times.

Yes, Butler did well with the long balls but anyone that generally observes the play can see he had to hold up often and win the battle.
 
i have multiple people post about allowing dekkers to throw the ball down field more. It takes much more that Dekkers arm. The biggest thing is that the offensive line has to give Dekkers time to throw. Alot of downfield routes take time to devolpe . if the offensive line cant give him more time to throw then he will be seeing more turf than open throws. i think that is why you didnt brock throw as much down field as we wanted him to . i think the coaching staff just understood that this line couldnt give him the time to do that

I have never played quarterback, so I don't know this from personal experience, BUT...

It looks to me that Dekkers has the physical gifts (bigger / stronger) to throw the ball with more velocity and distance with less effort than Purdy.

Purdy was GREAT. I really appreciated everything he did and don't regret any of his time here, But....

IF and when he threw further downfield, it took a lot of effort, needed to be well blocked and was not consistently done on the run or outside the pocket later in the play. It took ideal circumstances for a longer play to be pulled off. I attribute this to not having all the strength required to pull it off in less than ideal circumstances. If the long throw is a flick of the wrist vs. having to engage your entire body to make it, then you can concentrate on the accuracy vs. mustering all your strength to get it there.

That is why I believe Dekkers has a better shot at stretching the field. His long throws look effortless. Purdy's did not. Once again, I'm not taking anything away from Purdy, he was a great quarterback, that is just a difference I see.
 
I have never played quarterback, so I don't know this from personal experience, BUT...

It looks to me that Dekkers has the physical gifts (bigger / stronger) to throw the ball with more velocity and distance with less effort than Purdy.

Purdy was GREAT. I really appreciated everything he did and don't regret any of his time here, But....

IF and when he threw further downfield, it took a lot of effort, needed to be well blocked and was not consistently done on the run or outside the pocket later in the play. It took ideal circumstances for a longer play to be pulled off. I attribute this to not having all the strength required to pull it off in less than ideal circumstances. If the long throw is a flick of the wrist vs. having to engage your entire body to make it, then you can concentrate on the accuracy vs. mustering all your strength to get it there.

That is why I believe Dekkers has a better shot at stretching the field. His long throws look effortless. Purdy's did not. Once again, I'm not taking anything away from Purdy, he was a great quarterback, that is just a difference I see.
Here’s the thing with Purdy. He was prone to throwing off his back foot and not actually putting everything into his throw. He has the arm strength he just doesn’t utilize it most of the time. I think Dekkers will be better because he does step into his throws but I’ve never understood the Purdy doesn’t have the strength takes.
 
Here’s the thing with Purdy. He was prone to throwing off his back foot and not actually putting everything into his throw. He has the arm strength he just doesn’t utilize it most of the time. I think Dekkers will be better because he does step into his throws but I’ve never understood the Purdy doesn’t have the strength takes.

There were several things that I think are weird that they didn't get corrected with him.
 
Here’s the thing with Purdy. He was prone to throwing off his back foot and not actually putting everything into his throw. He has the arm strength he just doesn’t utilize it most of the time. I think Dekkers will be better because he does step into his throws but I’ve never understood the Purdy doesn’t have the strength takes.

You think Purdy has + arm strength for a College QB? Lol.
 
i have multiple people post about allowing dekkers to throw the ball down field more. It takes much more that Dekkers arm. The biggest thing is that the offensive line has to give Dekkers time to throw. Alot of downfield routes take time to devolpe . if the offensive line cant give him more time to throw then he will be seeing more turf than open throws. i think that is why you didnt brock throw as much down field as we wanted him to . i think the coaching staff just understood that this line couldnt give him the time to do that
[/QUOTE
Plus Brock needed receivers to step up and become bigger weapons.Purdy had a lot on his shoulders and was such a gamer.
 
There are things you see at the game that you don't see on TV... Brock missed a lot of deep ball opportunities because he doesn't step up into the pocket or he was way too late on the read. Now a lot of that has to do with his size and that is a huge plus for Dekkers. You don't need a ton of time to throw the deep ball, you just have to be able to trust your receivers and step into the pocket and make a throw.
 
i have multiple people post about allowing dekkers to throw the ball down field more. It takes much more that Dekkers arm. The biggest thing is that the offensive line has to give Dekkers time to throw. Alot of downfield routes take time to devolpe . if the offensive line cant give him more time to throw then he will be seeing more turf than open throws. i think that is why you didnt brock throw as much down field as we wanted him to . i think the coaching staff just understood that this line couldnt give him the time to do that
Purdy had the time. He didn’t have the feet, anticipation, and arm strength
 
There are things you see at the game that you don't see on TV... Brock missed a lot of deep ball opportunities because he doesn't step up into the pocket or he was way too late on the read. Now a lot of that has to do with his size and that is a huge plus for Dekkers. You don't need a ton of time to throw the deep ball, you just have to be able to trust your receivers and step into the pocket and make a throw.

Was the dump off as available as it seemed live?

Can't see on TV as there's typically someone covering from a distance but Hall one on one gets more yardage than forcing something into traffic.
 
Too many people on this site love to bag on Brock. I'll never understand it. Best QB in ISU history. Not great in comparison to your average NFL starter, sure, but he was an good to great college QB

Nobody is bagging on Brock. This is merely a discussion of certain tangibles that Dekkers has the Purdy doesn't. It's a fair discussion to have.
 
Too many people also like to overlook his weaknesses and be overly critical of the OL.

Purdy was a great QB for ISU, but you could see defenses moving more and more guys up to the LOS against him as his career went on. Now part of that is probably because ISU had the best running back in the country, but it also showed that other teams had no fear of Purdy throwing over the top. As for the OL, they were not very good again this year. Sure they had a couple games where they were okay, but for the most part if defenses sent guys Purdy had little time to do anything.
 

Help Support Us

Become a patron