Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[Cyclones1969]

Hawk trolls can ‘dumb’ this all they want but scott dochterman said the same thing. The delaney days are over for the big10.

Reality still is Disney made a boss move. And these conferences know that they have to make sure that their big 2 or 3 schools, the ones that matter are ok with what they’re doing.

truthfully this alliance was an effort for there to be 4-6 sec teams in the playoffs every year, had nothing to do with strength of the individual conferences.

That would have caused the gap that will exist, regardless of what our big 10 friends from schools along for the ride say, from getting to the point right away where Ohio state Michigan Clemson etc start negotiating behind the scenes with Disney also

 

[HouClone]

There will not be a big 12 by 2025 at the very latest. there’s no reason for the other conferences to publicly acknowledge any of the remaining schools, because the conference will no longer exist.

At this point, none of the remaining 8 schools matter in these agreements, because they are in a conference that won’t exist.

And also, everybody in these conferences, regardless of affiliation, want ut and ou and Disney to pay for making the move to destroy college Athletics as we know it.

This is not going to settle quickly, it never was. It will be over when exit fees, and revenue, are settled. Until then, we have to be purposely quiet, and let the process complete itself.

I’m quite certain that President Wintersteen, Jamie Pollard, Matt Campbell, and TJ Otzelberger, all have a very good idea what’s going on being the scenes, and where this all ends up for Iowa State

Yeah, the threat of the lawsuit against ESPN is probably holding up inviting any of the Big 12 teams seeing if the Big 12 can put some damage into ESPN and the SEC. On the other hand, if we are totally shut out of everything, it would be satisfying if the Big 12 goes scorched earth and somehow brings down the current college football system where it is regulated like way back in the day before the conferences got all the power.

 

[HouClone]

Sucks that we have the longest tenure P5 commissioner and he got played. Now he is forced to grovel on our behalf to new commissioners.

 

[Statefan10]

I used to like RDS on Twitter but he’s turned into such a smug douchebag ever since this whole thing happened.

 

[Die4Cy]

Just throw us one of those life saver things and pull us into a boat. Any boat. Just as long as we don't have to swim for the shore where those AAC guys are all standing on the beach.

 

[CloneJD]

From a revenue perspective, the Big Ten will remain on par with the SEC in a "per-school" payout. After they kick in their new TV deal in a couple years, there are projections B1G schools will still make more than the SEC schools even with the addition of UT and OU.

I have my doubts. New sec is projected to take in 1.3 billion in 2024-25 per USA Today.

 

[CarrollCyclone]

I have my doubts. New sec is projected to take in 1.3 billion in 2024-25 per USA Today.

Have not seen that. Does that include that include the revenue ESPN gets to keep for themselves? Everyone seems to think the next B1G TV contract will be massive and enough to keep on pace with the SEC.

 

[frackincygy]

I used to like RDS on Twitter but he’s turned into such a smug douchebag ever since this whole thing happened.

I like the response suggesting that we ALL tune in to watch OU at 11:00 -- make that time slot the MOST lucrative for ESPN.

 

[scyclonekid]

I'm not smart buy any means but if the BIG/PAC 12/ACC were in talks with Bowlsby they obviously wouldn't say anything or ou and texas would get off free right?

They could use it as leverage to try to get out of paying.

 

[Fishhead]

I’ll bet JP already has 95% confidence how this is going to go for ISU and where we will end up. He is just too smart to say anything.

Someone certainly has to know how to photoshop Jamie's head on Arnold's body

 

[cydsho]

I used to like RDS on Twitter but he’s turned into such a smug douchebag ever since this whole thing happened.

Challenge accepted! That guy has no idea how spiteful I will become if ISU gets left behind.

 

[JP4CY]

Hawk trolls can ‘dumb’ this all they want but scott dochterman said the same thing. The delaney days are over for the big10.

The B1G is fine.

 

[Trice]

Sucks that we have the longest tenure P5 commissioner and he got played. Now he is forced to grovel on our behalf to new commissioners.

I've yet to see a single convincing argument for what exactly Bowlsby was supposed to have done. People are confusing their frustration over what happened with the idea that he could have done something about it, and I see no evidence that's true. The fundamentals have been stacked up against this league for years, and all the other changes in the college athletics landscape in such a short time was the match that lit the fire that burned it down.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I've yet to see a single convincing argument for what exactly Bowlsby was supposed to have done.

Pretty embarrassing that not only did he not know about it, but he basically laughed in a reporter's face when asked about any schools looking to leave the league literally a week before the story broke.

 

[Trice]

Pretty embarrassing that not only did he not know about it, but he basically laughed in a reporter's face when asked about any schools looking to leave the league literally a week before the story broke.

Despite this often-cited quote, if you truly believe that Bowlsby - not to mention every non-OU/UT athletic director in this league - didn't anticipate this day might come and plan accordingly, I'm not sure what to tell you. It nearly came 10 years ago and it's been speculated about in the media for years.

Again, show me a scenario where he could have prevented it. That he got embarrassed by the timing of it is proof of exactly nothing.

 

[CloneJD]

Pretty embarrassing that not only did he not know about it, but he basically laughed in a reporter's face when asked about any schools looking to leave the league literally a week before the story broke.

I believe he was asked about expansion not teams leaving.

I don’t get the bowlby hate. I guess everyone wants a fall boy.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I believe he was asked about expansion not teams leaving.

I don’t get the bowlby hate. I guess everyone wants a fall boy.

"And so a lot of the motivation for realignment is no longer there. Is that to say it couldn't happen? No, it could possibly happen for other reasons. But it doesn't appear to me that the motivation is there at this point in time. Not to say it couldn't happen, but it's not one of the things that keeps me up at night."

Bob Bowlsby on July 14.

Houston Chronicle report about UT and OU to the SEC was July 21.

I'm glad he got at least one more week of a good night's sleep though!

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Again, show me a scenario where he could have prevented it. That he got embarrassed by the timing of it is proof of exactly nothing.

I can't show you that he could have prevented it because he was not in a position to do so. He missed any possible chance of preventing it because he was ignorant.

I have no clue if he could have succeeded in doing so, but we will never know because he was blindsided by this.

 

[trevn]

I've yet to see a single convincing argument for what exactly Bowlsby was supposed to have done. People are confusing their frustration over what happened with the idea that he could have done something about it, and I see no evidence that's true. The fundamentals have been stacked up against this league for years, and all the other changes in the college athletics landscape in such a short time was the match that lit the fire that burned it down.

I agree with you. I think what fuels the frustration is Bowlsby gave the appearance that he was very confident of the Big XII's future and had a good handle on where all conference members stood, only to be blind sided very publicly by people he's known and trusted for a very long time. Most people would fall victim to that unless they're paranoid every waking moment of every day.

 

[Trice]

I can't show you that he could have prevented it because he was not in a position to do so. He missed any possible chance of preventing it because he was ignorant.

I have no clue if he could have succeeded in doing so, but we will never know because he was blindsided by this.

I just can't express what a silly mindset this is. Of course he was blindsided - they worked really hard to keep it a secret! The media is on constant lookout for this stuff and they whiffed on it too.

The point is, he and others surely planned for this eventuality. A big part of that plan was building up the stability and financial security of the league over the last 10 years. And the more short-term part of that plan was very likely to do whatever the hell OU and UT wanted to keep them in the league.

Because that's all you can do when all the prevailing conditions are so stacked against you. It wasn't enough, and there's almost certainly no scenario where it ever would have been.