Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

Who cares if they moved games off ESPNU? What do you think is gonna happen in a 16 team conference? ISU fans still won’t buy it like other fanbases.

The fact is that we’re all cheap, me included. We are going to get relegated because of it too.
Because people could pay to play there. ESPN+ isn’t a pay to play situation yet. Maybe in 10 years but internet access is still **** across much of the country. You also have a lot of people especially older people who don’t understand how it works. We do have more cheap fans but cheap as in we don’t have people with millions to throw around but we do have a ton of wealthy people who can and will subscribe.

I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening for how many subscribers other schools will have. Now you have a ton of tshirt fans who watch but people who don’t care as much and those with fan bases filled with poor people are going to really hurt in the future.
 
Even if it will stabilize the conference, it will stabilize it as a G5 conference, meaning we will lose tremendous amounts of money and recruits, and therefore probably lose our coaching staff and any facility upgrades.
And, I point to where the SEC was 30 years ago as an example of how to re-establish yourself even more powerful than before.
 
Vandy is a founding member and will not be kicked out. The only way that happens is if the SEC dissolves and reforms with just the highest revenue programs.
 
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Just heard through the rumor grapevine some pretty crazy stuff. Guy I know in ATL who knows some boosters close to UGA AD:

1. Word around UGA boosters is that Texas could make the move to SEC in as soon as 2 weeks
2. OU and OSU are a package deal to the SEC. OU wouldn’t leave without them.
3. If all 3 were to join, you could see Vandy and if needed, Missouri kicked out.
4. Auburn isn’t very well liked but it’s unlikely they would be kicked out.

That all sounds very speculative from your source.

If OSU is so tied to OU, why did they release the statement they did yesterday?

I have a hard time taking seriously any suggestion that schools like Vandy, Missouri, and Auburn would booted from the SEC.
 
I realize I never post and am a long time lurker so I don’t have any reason to think anyone will trust me but this is what I’ve heard. Wild stuff if true. We will see if the first rumor about UT abruptly leaving occurs and if so, what that looks like.
Didn’t mean to point that at you. This is a complete and utter sh*tshow above all shitshows. Meant good grief at how wild this is going to get. Who the hell knows what’s going on, post whatever you want in my mind.
 
Just heard through the rumor grapevine some pretty crazy stuff. Guy I know in ATL who knows some boosters close to UGA AD:

1. Word around UGA boosters is that Texas could make the move to SEC in as soon as 2 weeks
2. OU and OSU are a package deal to the SEC. OU wouldn’t leave without them.
3. If all 3 were to join, you could see Vandy and if needed, Missouri kicked out.
4. Auburn isn’t very well liked but it’s unlikely they would be kicked out.


literally most of this is false
 
I agree. NIL has essentially rendered the NCAA obsolete when it comes to football....hell they don't even run the championship now. Imagine you are an AD at Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida....and see that affiliation with the NCAA and it's rules no longer have to apply....why wouldn't you, at minimum, reach out to the most attractive 24 schools nationwide and say "hey, we can make all the football money...all of it...and essentially act as a semi-pro developmental league for the NFL."

Football only, 24 teams, 2 divisions, 11 games against your division + one from other division, top 2 in each division make a playoff.

Florida, Miami, Florida State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, USC, Oregon

Which of those schools is a firm no if the rest are leaning yes? They already dominate football recruiting....12 games every week with only those schools involved (5 at noon, 5 at 3:30, two games in primetime); what would a TV contract like that look like? What would the playoff contract look like? Those 24 teams would own a day of the week for the entire fall.

Those AD's have no obligation to worry about the program survival at Vanderbilt, or Georgia Tech, or Utah, or Iowa State. All the tradition and rivalry and geographic considerations in the world can't match up with the mountain of money those 24 schools would be dividing up. Even Notre Dame, presented with that scenario, would have to either jump in or schedule what's left of the big 10/big 12.

Really hope this doesn't happen, but consolidation has been the way of the business world for quite some time...
If these top schools make a mini NFL college football will eventually be absolutely small-time, niche and regional. The only way college football remains a huge money-making business is by keeping fans of 60 or so teams engaged in some way. Fans of schools left out of this league aren’t going to adopt new teams, they’ll just watch the NFL.
 
I understand. But in this day and age do contracts mean anything anymore? Especially in college football? So they have to cough up some cash to break away from the league. So what. I was responding to the **** measuring contest thrown down by the SEC and how the Big Ten would react. Well, those two are the biggest ****'* left. ISU and KU don't measure up.
What matters is the schools media rights, OU and UT supposedly is thinking about saying that the Big 12 will no longer have access to those rights at the end of the current contract which runs out in 2023.
No school is going to leave a conference without being able to be on TV in their new conference, and no conference wants to have as a member a school it cannot broadcast its games.
 
Because people could pay to play there. ESPN+ isn’t a pay to play situation yet. Maybe in 10 years but internet access is still **** across much of the country. You also have a lot of people especially older people who don’t understand how it works. We do have more cheap fans but cheap as in we don’t have people with millions to throw around but we do have a ton of wealthy people who can and will subscribe.

I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening for how many subscribers other schools will have. Now you have a ton of tshirt fans who watch but people who don’t care as much and those with fan bases filled with poor people are going to really hurt in the future.
Haven't you been watching the 1,000s of satellites going into space? Or that cable is dying? Or that internet packaging is now the primary seller (sign of the trend)? Quality internet for everyone else is, at most, 1 year away. Trust me. ESPN is at the forefront of understanding the paradigm shift. But, are (and will continue to be more so) financially strapped. If Disney doesn't keep up it's creative products, it will fall on financial times. Amusement park revenues dramatically hurt. ESPN bleeding due to dropped cable. This is a more delicate ship than most understand.
 
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Haven't you been watching the 1,000s of satellites going into space? Or that cable is dying? Or that internet packaging is now the primary seller (sign of the trend)? Quality internet for everyone else is, at most, 1 year away. Trust me. ESPN is at the forefront of understanding the paradigm shift. But, are (and will continue to be more so) financially strapped. If Disney doesn't keep up it's creative products, it will fall on financial times. Amusement park revenues dramatically hurt. ESPN bleeding due to dropped cable. This is a more delicate ship than most understand.

I haven’t seen a Dish network or Directv van or truck in like 5 years either.
 
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That all sounds very speculative from your source.

If OSU is so tied to OU, why did they release the statement they did yesterday?

I have a hard time taking seriously any suggestion that schools like Vandy, Missouri, and Auburn would booted from the SEC.

The source said Auburn being booted is unlikely if ever. But that Vandy would be first on the chopping block if it came down to fitting OSU and OU into the SEC.

I think OSU’s statement was PR and there’s no mention of them being tied at the hip. It’s hard to know what to make of their statement other than “Rah Rah protect our university”.
 
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Football only, 24 teams, 2 divisions, 11 games against your division + one from other division, top 2 in each division make a playoff.

Florida, Miami, Florida State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, USC, Oregon

Really hope this doesn't happen, but consolidation has been the way of the business world for quite some time...

I think this is likely, unless the blue bloods decide they need some cannon fodder to inflate their records. Then you would see something bigger, like maybe four 10 team divisions.

I could learn live with this from an ISU standpoint. Yes, the money would plummet, and that would be terrible. But there would be enough respectable teams left it wouldn't be the AAC. You would have to re-rationalize geography for everyone to reduce travel costs. Return of the Big8 pretty much.

You would just be in triple A ball, and have to deal with it. And the money differential might not be as much as the B1G and the AAC today either - closer to half than a quarter. ESPN will own ALL the rights to the blue bloods conference, so CBS, Fox, streamers(?) would probably bid up the triple A conference somewhere between what the Pac12 and AAC get now.

side note- not sure if Ark, Wisc, SCar, Kent belong in this group. If they do, then 20 more teams do.
 
What matters is the schools media rights, OU and UT supposedly is thinking about saying that the Big 12 will no longer have access to those rights at the end of the current contract which runs out in 2023.
No school is going to leave a conference without being able to be on TV in their new conference, and no conference wants to have as a member a school it cannot broadcast its games.

I understand, and you may be correct. But then couldn't UT and OU have stated now that in two years if a new contract isn't worked up we are gone? Almost like a 30 day notice getting out of a lease at an apartment, or a 2 week notice at a job? This sounds like it's going to now, they are both willing to pay to get out.......and no one else knew. That doesn't sound like they are very concerned about 2023 at this point. OU and UT are both awash in cash, are willing to take a hit now for what they anticipate is coming. There are no rules anymore.....it's everyone for themselves.....the rich are going get richer and the poor can lick pavement.
 

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