Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

Alternatives for ISU. And JP should be working ALL of these simultaneously.

1. Sneak into the Illuminati planning to move CFB outside the NCAA into it's own league, and work to pull this forward. This would entail a total realignment (with hopefully some geographic rationality) with 64 or 72 or 80 teams. I think ISU would be OK in this scenario based on size, fanbase, and recent success. Honestly, this is what I hope (and expect) to eventually happen.

2. get in bed with Kansas (or Pitt, more creatively) and fellate Barry Alvarez, Gene Smith, and anybody else who matters that might be convinced they need a little more inventory for the B1G network

3. Partner with KU, KSU, OSU and try to convince the Pac12 into a vision of a 16 team conference with Coastal and Midwest divisions that rarely actually play each other. They have a new commish who may want to make a mark. Maybe this would make sense with some kind of Apple or Amazon contract. I'd keep TT, Bay, TCU and go for 20, but I think they are all to toxic for Pac12 sensitivities.

4. Have the entire American join the Big12. That's 19, so you gotta pull one more - at this point, doesn't really matter who lol. Have (2) 10 team divisions, winners play in a CCG. You play 9 in your division, 2 from the other and only 1 non-con. Sorry, but have to hog that inventory because a lot of mouths to feed - this is almost 2x number of games as the SEC, so even at . There are partner teams near WV, only adding 3 in Tex/Okla. You get a couple in Florida and Cinci/Memphis for some bball. I think that's much better than just having 8 teams. Maybe in time you can challenge Pac12 for 4th place money...


#1 and #3 would be good from a money standpoint (I'd hate being in the B1G personally). #2 is meh. #4 is your zombie apocalypse scenario. Even with a bigger contract due to more inventory, you are looking at a 50% revenue drop.


See you on the other side, Ray.
 
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What? It’s a cheaper, better version of cyclones.tv

There are tons of threads on this very site ******** about paying for streaming ISU games
Because they took games that were on ESPN and moved them to streaming when they said they wouldn’t. ESPN+ is a decent enough thing for what it is. It is an improvement over Cyclones.tv. That said streaming is still difficult for a lot of people on the US. Then you took games that people had no problem getting and shoved them on there of course people are going to be mad.

It isn’t the cost it is the accessibility for people that’s the problem right now. If you had everyone with access to high speed internet in the US and you gave it a few years for old people to learn how to do it then you wouldn’t hear complaints.
 
The Big 10 loves getting into **** measuring contests with the SEC. The SEC just whipped out their OU an UT dicks, and everybody is impressed.

The Big 10 is not going to whip out an ISU **** in response. I know that's not exactly what you're saying but people need to get real here.
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Alternatives for ISU. And JP should be working ALL of these simultaneously.

1. Sneak into the Illuminati planning to move CFB outside the NCAA into it's own league, and work to pull this forward. This would entail a total realignment (with hopefully some geographic rationality) with 64 or 72 or 80 teams. I think ISU would be OK in this scenario based on size, fanbase, and recent success. Honestly, this is what I hope (and expect) to eventually happen.

2. get in bed with Kansas (or Pitt, more creatively) and fellate Barry Alvarez, Gene Smith, and anybody else who matters that might be convinced they need a little more inventory for the B1G network

3. Partner with KU, KSU, OSU and try to convince the Pac12 into a vision of a 16 team conference with Coastal and Midwest divisions that rarely actually play each other. They have a new commish who may want to make a mark. Maybe this would make sense with some kind of Apple or Amazon contract. I'd keep TT, Bay, TCU and go for 20, but I think they are all to toxic for Pac12 sensitivities.

4. Have the entire American join the Big12. That's 19, so you gotta pull one more - at this point, doesn't really matter who lol. Have (2) 10 team divisions, winners play in a CCG. You play 9 in your division, 2 from the other and only 1 non-con. Sorry, but have to hog that inventory because a lot of mouths to feed - this is almost 2x number of games as the SEC, so even at . There are partner teams near WV, only adding 3 in Tex/Okla. You get a couple in Florida and Cinci/Memphis for some bball. I think that's much better than just having 8 teams. Maybe in time you can challenge Pac12 for 4th place money...


#1 and #3 would be good from a money standpoint (I'd hate being in the B1G personally). #2 is meh. #4 is your zombie apocalypse scenario. Even with a bigger contract due to more inventory, you are looking at a 50% revenue drop.


See you on the other side, Ray.
I believe the PAC12 requires AAU status. This, they would only add us, and/or KU, if they end up making that even matter.
 
Someone tell me what we bring the Big 10 needs? Can we bring enough to make the other 14 schools make more money? Does Ohio State or Michigan say "man I would really like to have Iowa State in the conference." I don't see how that is possible. I am not being negative about it. It's just not realistic to think the Big 10 is an option.
You might ask the same question regarding Iowa. The AAU status is substantial. The viewership can't be ignored. The proximity should be taken into account. Again, urban media markets, IMO are a dying breed in favor of streaming. With that in mind, ISU brings as much, if not more than many others. I can just see the B1G saying the digital computer was invented by a member of the conference. And, I'm sure there are countless more reasons. I can't wait for that first on-line poll. You know. The ones where we come out in droves.
 
One thing to consider if it comes down to it, the B1G requires schools to have wrestling. KU doesn't, and hasn't for quite a while. ISU obviously does and would fit well with the B1G. It wouldn't be enough on its own, but add up the proximity, AAU status, and that and scales tip.
 
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The current Big East has zero football schools but yet is still a Power 6 basketball conference and is sending 60-70% of its teams to the tourney every year.

The current Big East is made up of a bunch of private schools that have a sh!t ton of private money pumped into them. You aren't comparing apples to apples here.
 
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The Big 10 loves getting into **** measuring contests with the SEC. The SEC just whipped out their OU an UT dicks, and everybody is impressed.

The Big 10 is not going to whip out an ISU **** in response. I know that's not exactly what you're saying but people need to get real here.

I agree, but I’d rather whip out an ISU than watch my metaphorical 10” **** shriveling up by 2” every year while getting slapped in the face with the SEC’s 14” monster that is growing by 2” every year. The Big Ten will be admitting defeat if they do nothing.

Not being able to get ND in the fold in the past has to be making the Big 10 powers looking for a thin window in a tall building right now. I think the ACC is in a better spot than they are right now.
 
ISU basketball just tweeted that we have the 19th most social media followers of a basketball account. Not sure where football falls, but in the age of who will buy streaming services, that # can’t hurt us.
 
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What is interesting about this move if it indeed happens is it is clearly about the SEC trying to breakaway from the NCAA, which is a thing that has been talked about for some time.

Now I spin this years down the road, but I wouldn’t exactly feel good if I was Vandy, Mississippi State or a school like that in the SEC or other major conferences. Because I wouldn’t put it past the ones controlling all of this to eventually want to trim this down even further and ideally just get all of the biggest brands together in one league (I.e top 25-30 programs) and basically be the minor league for the NFL.

These guys only care about money and to hell with tradition and life-long partnerships. They wouldn’t even need the SEC name so the big guns of Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia and now Texas and OU would basically opt to dissolve the SEC and form their own conference with discussions going on behind the scenes with ND, Ohio State, Michigan, etc.

Agree. The NCAA is going to be OUT of big time CFB sooner than later.

How many teams do you need to have your own independent CFB league? 30? 40? Is it different for CFB than for the Big4 professional leagues? They all have 30s.

Does this go to an NBA and ABA look? A 30ish team blue blood brand league, and the "next 40" league? That might not be horrible I suppose. Disappointing, but you'd still have good rivalries and enough good teams that the money would be there, just less of it. You could do relegation in this scenario, which would be way fun, but the good ole boys would never ever consider it.
 
I agree, but I’d rather whip out an ISU than watch my metaphorical 10” **** shriveling up by 2” every year while getting slapped in the face with the SEC’s 14” monster that is growing by 2” every year. The Big Ten will be admitting defeat if they do nothing.

Not being able to get ND in the fold in the past has to be making the Big 10 powers looking for a thin window in a tall building right now. I think the ACC is in a better spot than they are right now.
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Let's make a play for all the old big 12 schools. Tamu, miZZOU, COLORADO, NEBRASKA. Get the band back together again

That ship has sailed aTm is fighting Tx coming into the SEC, Mizzou doesn't care and is taking the easy money of being a SEC whipping boy. Nebby is safe in the B1G so they don't care. The Buffs have disappeared into the mismanagement of the P12 and no one knows where they are anymore.
 
Because they took games that were on ESPN and moved them to streaming when they said they wouldn’t. ESPN+ is a decent enough thing for what it is. It is an improvement over Cyclones.tv. That said streaming is still difficult for a lot of people on the US. Then you took games that people had no problem getting and shoved them on there of course people are going to be mad.

It isn’t the cost it is the accessibility for people that’s the problem right now. If you had everyone with access to high speed internet in the US and you gave it a few years for old people to learn how to do it then you wouldn’t hear complaints.

Who cares if they moved games off ESPNU? What do you think is gonna happen in a 16 team conference? ISU fans still won’t buy it like other fanbases.

The fact is that we’re all cheap, me included. We are going to get relegated because of it too.
 

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