Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[Cycl0nepower]

Texas won’t get in because they need an unanimous vote from all SEC schools. A&M will block them from getting in.

 

[jsb]

I think we’re looking a little too deeply into historical factors and not enough into future factors.

We’ve put ourselves in a great spot in terms of our facilities, leadership, academics. We have viable factors to join another conference now. I can name several programs that are sh*t shows right now.

If the SEC expands to 16, these other conferences will not sit on their hands and add no one. They will be aggressive to acquire anyone possible.

I don’t know where we land for sure, but this assumption that we’re f***ed seems a little premature.

I agree, but you also have to think about it logically. Who do we beat out? Oklahoma takes Oklahoma State with them. Kansas takes Kansas State with them. We are the ones that are ******.

 

[Go2Guy]

I predict in the next 10 years the Power 5 schools break away from the NCAA and form some sort of college football federation. I think they'll be more like regional divisions as opposed to the current conference look.

That would be awesome, provided we can cherry pick which teams.

 

[jsb]

Texas won’t get in because they need an unanimous vote from all SEC schools. A&M will block them from getting in.

They only need a majority.

 

[Cycl0nepower]

They only need a majority.

I thought I read it was unanimous.

 

[Clark]

Texas won’t get in because they need an unanimous vote from all SEC schools. A&M will block them from getting in.

what's to stop the SEC from booting A&M? Cuz if my options are A&M or Texas and OU...why would I be loyal to a member whose been in my conference for less than a decade?

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The future, IMO, is the Big 10 and SEC both going to 16 and splitting away from the NCAA.

The bowl games and basketball tournament they could sell to the networks would be astounding in the money they'd make.

Play your 12 regular season games against only teams in your league and then matchup 1v1, 2v2, all the way down and give FOX (Big 10) and ESPN (SEC) great inventory while simultaneously cutting the legs out from Turner when you run your own 32 team basketball tournament on your own networks.

This also forces Notre Dame into the Big Ten and the war for that 16th spot will be nuts....

NIL killed the NCAA, they just don't know it yet. FOX and ESPN are 3 years away from completely running college sports without the perception that they're just partners of the leagues and the NCAA.

ND cannot go into the Big 10, their contract with the ACC says that if they join a league it has to be the ACC. That is the price they paid to park their other sports in the league, that and having to play 5 football games a year against ACC opponents.

 

[FeedBreece]

I agree, but you also have to think about it logically. Who do we beat out? Oklahoma takes Oklahoma State with them. Kansas takes Kansas State with them. We are the ones that are ******.

What makes you assume K and K State and Oklahoma OK State are tied to the hip?

And why are schools like TCU, WV Baylor and Tech safe?

 

[MustardTiger]

They've got the infrastructure. Carriage deals are already in place and they both have a massive streaming presence ready to go. Plus, they're both backed by unworldly money and would take 100% of the risk.

SEC has got the money to build any and all infrastructure needed. massive streaming presence would easily be transferred to people that want to watch college sports and college sports only. and they may take 100% of the risk (not sure what risk there would be) but it would come at a cost. Maybe that cost is what they're trying to reduce.

 

[Cyched]

I agree, but you also have to think about it logically. Who do we beat out? Oklahoma takes Oklahoma State with them. Kansas takes Kansas State with them. We are the ones that are ******.

On the flipside, I could see the B1G presidents being adamant that KSU isn't added. So if the two KS schools are joined at the hip, it might work in our favor

 

[Gunnerclone]

what's to stop the SEC from booting A&M? Cuz if my options are A&M or Texas and OU...why would I be loyal to a member whose been in my conference for less than a decade?

I would hope A&M was smart enough to write something in to their joining documents that if they get removed from the conference they get a parachute that could get them to outer space.

 

[Gunnerclone]

SEC has got the money to build any and all infrastructure needed. massive streaming presence would easily be transferred to people that want to watch college sports and college sports only. and they may take 100% of the risk (not sure what risk there would be) but it would come at a cost. Maybe that cost is what they're trying to reduce.

I don’t think this is accurate.

 

[Cyched]

what's to stop the SEC from booting A&M? Cuz if my options are A&M or Texas and OU...why would I be loyal to a member whose been in my conference for less than a decade?

It'd be funny if Texas joins the SEC and A&M is so pissed off they rejoin the Big 12

 

[Go2Guy]

It'd be funny if Texas joins the SEC and A&M is so pissed off they rejoin the Big 12

I would take that switch !

 

[deadeyededric]

Missouri left for one reason, when they saw what was happening in the talks between the PAC 12 and OU and UT they were going to be one of the schools left out. So they started talking to the Big 10, but then Nebraska started thinking it was a great time for them to get out under the shadow of UT so they took that slot.
The SEC took aTm, needed another school and Mizzu was a border state so they got the invite. Are they better off, moneywise yes, but they also gave up any chance of ever winning a football championship forever.

The politicians in the St. Louis area wanted this to happen and the school wanted the money and stability. It's not a secret why they left.

 

[cyclonedave25]

I agree, but you also have to think about it logically. Who do we beat out? Oklahoma takes Oklahoma State with them. Kansas takes Kansas State with them. We are the ones that are ******.

I could make a better case being tied at the hip to another school is worse than ISU.

 

[Cyched]

I could make a better case being tied at the hip to another school is worse than ISU.

Especially, in the case of the B1G, when the school you're tied to isn't an AAU school

 

[JRE1975]

This doesn't make a lot of sense, but UT does a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense.

OU is the one that surprises me. They have as clear a path as you could ask for to the playoffs and plenty of money.

Both OU and UT must believe that when it comes time the Big 12 will not get proportionate money in the next TV round to the SEC or Big 10 or if they think the Tier 3 money will go down. The Big 12 is already gets more money per school than the ACC and PAC 12.

Best option for ISU if everything hits the fan and the Big 10 says no, is to try and work with the best and strongest schools from the AAC and the remaining Big 12 put together a conference that has a chance to grow stronger over time. Based on budgets and quality of play you would have to go with Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, and maybe Memphis.

Like a lot of people, I am tired of dealing with this every year. UT has barely won half their Big 12 games in the last 10 years, how do they think they will fare in the SEC?

 

[1UNI2ISU]

ND cannot go into the Big 10, their contract with the ACC says that if they join a league it has to be the ACC. That is the price they paid to park their other sports in the league, that and having to play 4 football games a year against ACC opponents.

So the ACC sues them. And loses their shirt doing it.

 

[cyatheart]

Bottom line: this happens = We’re f*cked.

yeah…there is no good outcome if Texas and OU leave. We have to pray this is a leverage thing to get the TV partners to open the deal and give us more money. There is nowhere to go that is remotely on the same level. It would be the end of Matt Campbell as well at Iowa State. We couldn’t afford to pay him.

The NIL is bad enough. I think what will happen is….a 4 star QB needs X amount of NIL to go to a school. There will be a rough market price to get that guy. And just as we started to compete for those guys, they snatch it away.

IF this is true…and it is as simple as Texas and OU are leaving…there isn’t a good way to spin it for Iowa State.