Housing market

Actually pays is probably most accurate here, people are actually paying extra on top of the mortgage because lending standards apparently don’t support market value. Given that, what’s really is market value?
You’re saying market value is what a buyer will pay, and then explain all of the safeguards that protect institutional implosion which says that’s not really market value.

Don't get lending amount and market value confused. Lending standards show risk tolerance

A lender doesn't have to max out their collateral position.
 
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I would only use Zestimate as that...an estimate. Their number could be off at least 15% either way. At least that is what I've noticed. I still use Zillow when researching resale of my flips but mostly as a high level guide and for the photos of the sold homes. The photos give me a better comparison.

8 houses could have sold in the area but only two were done up nice. Zillow just looks at the average of the 8. Say that comes out to roughly $125,000. The two nice houses sold for $135,000 each though while the others would be below the $125,000.

You can use the Zestimate to a point, you'll just have to use some odd your own analysis with that. If you are not in the residential industry you may not include something or notice something. (House had an extra 1/2 bath, yard size etc...)

Well said. One thing I noticed with our recent sale: Zillow had our house tracking at $285k for a while before we listed. We agreed with our realtor to list at $270k based on his research and our desire to sell quickly. As soon as it hit Zillow, Zillow revised the zestimate to match the list price.

Zestimate is an algorithm that doesn’t appear to be terribly complex. Really just an average $/SF for your area.
 
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Similar story. We went 42500 over asking, appraisal came back 1000 over our asking. I am 2 for 2 on house appraisals coming back 1000 over asking since 2016 in two different states.

I smell a conspiracy.

No one (city, county, state, etc) wants people buying a house and then not be able to spend any money once they get in to the house because they had to cash cover a huge appraisal gap.
 
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Did a second showing on a house in Melbourne tonight that we were really interested in it but our king sized bed will take up 90% of the largest bedroom kind of killed any further intrest in it.. there was another couple/family there before us looking at it and one or two more lined up after us even. It really is a nice house otherwise honestly...
 
Did a second showing on a house in Melbourne tonight that we were really interested in it but our king sized bed will take up 90% of the largest bedroom kind of killed any further intrest in it.. there was another couple/family there before us looking at it and one or two more lined up after us even. It really is a nice house otherwise honestly...
Yeah, king bed is first check mark
 
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Check square footage. If the house is a two story, many true square footage of houses differ due to either poor measuring or just guesses at the square footage

And some sources/places do not count "below grade" as square footage which screws up older split-levels w "garden level" windows and newer-"daylight lot" floor plans...Local city/county assessor may properly differentiate between partially below grade living area and a true 'basement' (for the taxable assessment) but when their numbers get transferred onto someone else's forms and software it may just get lumped in w basement
 
And some sources/places do not count "below grade" as square footage which screws up older split-levels w "garden level" windows and newer-"daylight lot" floor plans...Local city/county assessor may properly differentiate between partially below grade living area and a true 'basement' (for the taxable assessment) but when their numbers get transferred onto someone else's forms and software it may just get lumped in w basement
The true square footage is what is above grade. So split levels that have the lower level 3 foot in the ground, that portion is below grade and should not be added into the square footage. If the lower level has a walk out that is at grade level then you need to measure and find out when the floor is lower than grade and that area is considered basement. Many times the walk out opens up at the point that grade reaches the basement floor. At that point you have a walk out entry to the basement.
 
The true square footage is what is above grade. So split levels that have the lower level 3 foot in the ground, that portion is below grade and should not be added into the square footage. If the lower level has a walk out that is at grade level then you need to measure and find out when the floor is lower than grade and that area is considered basement. Many times the walk out opens up at the point that grade reaches the basement floor. At that point you have a walk out entry to the basement.
parents house is like that it's a split level ranch, entry, kitchen and dining room on main level, 2 bedrooms and the living room above, then a walk out lower level family room and the other 2 bedrooms, and still has a basement under that even, only listed as a 1,900 square foot house but is really about 2,600 square feet of finished living area.
 
I’m at Menards right now and a 4x8 sheet of OSB plywood is $70. My eyes are buggin out
Some friends built a small steel garage post derecho. They decided to insulate and put up plywood inside rather than drywall - just 3/8ths, nothing heavy.

When they priced it, it was like $15 per sheet. When they bought it, it was about $25 per sheet. Last they looked it was $42 per sheet. So like 150% increase over about 8 months.

At what point is it worth taking some of these 10 million downed trees to a local sawmill? Or just buy one of those little on-site sawmill things? Good grief!
 

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