Old Mediocre Has-Been Desperate To Appear Relevant; aka JBo To Return

[Mr Janny]

I'm not saying they don't deserve it, they probably do. But I have a hard time believing you can't see a whole slew of ramifications resulting from opening up recruiting to the highest bidders. T Boone will be rolling over in his grave over what he could've done for OSU.

7 years of College Football Playoff
Alabama-6 appearances
Clemson-6 appearances
Ohio State-4 appearances
Oklahoma-4 appearances

There have been 28 total spots granted in the playoff. Only 8 of them have gone to schools other than aforementioned 4.

I'm not really worried about ramifications. It's not like we're protecting some great bastion of parity.

 

[StagecoachMike]

I'm contemplating starting an eBay for college athletes so at least they can leave reviews of their experience after they cash the checks, lol.

I completely understand the freedom to make money and it's an eventuality, I just think the ramifications are going to be a lot more painful for schools like ISU in quick order. When you move from a few guys handing out duffel bags of cash in the dark to there being an open market bidding war for players, we go from having our natural disadvantages to having about 100x worse of a disadvantage.

Absolutely. Because you know some programs will try to exploit any loopholes they can from day 1.

 

[scyclonekid]

What a D bag

 

[Acylum]

7 years of College Football Playoff
Alabama-6 appearances
Clemson-6 appearances
Ohio State-4 appearances
Oklahoma-4 appearances

There have been 28 total spots granted in the playoff. Only 8 of them have gone to schools other than aforementioned 4.

I'm not really worried about ramifications. It's not like we're protecting some great bastion of parity.

Don’t disagree but at least let me think we have a chance.

 

[BCClone]

Exactly. I bet there is a fan or two in SEC land who will pay a couple hundred K for a car commercial. Or a "camp".

Camps? At least in the wrestling world, these guys are already getting paid for them. They just find a non donor or ticket holder to be the one to give them the cash and stay quiet.

 

[Mr Janny]

I think that's the best path, I just think it's ripe for a huge imbalance. There's nothing from stopping Texas boosters from paying guys 100K a year to attend there while a school like ISU would suffer greatly. Today we at least have a chance at good recruits because there isn't a financial incentive against us. We would absolutely suffer on the recruiting side for Top 300 guys.

There's not really anything stopping those boosters right now. Look at the shoe companies and Louisville, Arizona, Kansas, etc

 

[DeereClone]

I'm contemplating starting an eBay for college athletes so at least they can leave reviews of their experience after they cash the checks, lol.

I completely understand the freedom to make money and it's an eventuality, I just think the ramifications are going to be a lot more painful for schools like ISU in quick order. When you move from a few guys handing out duffel bags of cash in the dark to there being an open market bidding war for players, we go from having our natural disadvantages to having about 100x worse of a disadvantage.

I understand why people support this, I just think it's going to have immensely big and negative ramifications for the ISUs of the world.

A website that connects donors to recruits and collects a fee for facilitating the transaction would actually be a great idea.

 

[Acylum]

There's not really anything stopping those boosters right now. Look at the shoe companies and Louisville, Arizona, Kansas, etc

Is this just a sparring match leading up to our annual Pre NFL Draft Rick Spielman debate?

 

[Cyched]

We all know @isufbcurt would've been sponsored by Dangerous Curves

 

[Mr Janny]

For the record, I really enjoy this discussion. This is a topic I am very passionate about,and I appreciate well reasoned back and forth. I don’t disagree that landscape will change. And potentially not all of the change will be for the better. But that's not reason enough to not do what's right. And I believe it's right for those players to have the same rights as any other student.

 

[Jeremy]

7 years of College Football Playoff
Alabama-6 appearances
Clemson-6 appearances
Ohio State-4 appearances
Oklahoma-4 appearances

There have been 28 total spots granted in the playoff. Only 8 of them have gone to schools other than aforementioned 4.

I'm not really worried about ramifications. It's not like we're protecting some great bastion of parity.

I don't think it impacts football as much as I think it's MBB where it's going to be catastrophic. Look at the parity this year and imagine going forward having a Sweet Sixteen that basically looks the same every year like the CFF Playoffs. Just looking at the Big 12, we'd probably be in the bottom 3 for schools with a booster base capable of putting up any sort of meaningful financial stream for players which creates a whole new layer of headwinds to compete against before even taking the court.

 

[Expert]

What does Bohannon have to be proud of?

The school record for threes and assists. The second most threes in conference history. I get why people think he's a douche but he's had a decent career for a kid ranked in the 300's coming out of HS.

 

[Jeremy]

There's not really anything stopping those boosters right now. Look at the shoe companies and Louisville, Arizona, Kansas, etc

But because of the nature of it, it's fairly limited to maybe 20 recruits a year based on everything I've seen and heard talking off the record to recruits and players over the years. When it's the main recruiting tool going forward, we'd likely see that go from the Top 20 players to the Top 300 players.

 

[cyclone1209]

So apparently JBo is willing to come back for his 13th year, but only if they pass legislation to allow him to profit off his NIL:

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So much to unpack here. Is there much of a desire to have him back? Plus, what exactly is Jordan Bohannon's NIL worth? Can't be more than what he'd make in his future career, be it basketball, coaching or otherwise, right?

The money he would make as a pro would be far less than signing 5 practice jerseys at an eastern Iowa sporting goods store - so in that sense I can't blame him.

Would love to see him guard Tyrese Hunter next year!!

 

[Cycl0nepower]

The school record for threes and assists. The second most threes in conference history. I get why people think he's a douche but he's had a decent career for a kid ranked in the 300's coming out of HS.

Don’t forget how he was a distraction for the team. That was an inappropriate time to be that focused on Twitter instead of the game. One of Iowa’s best teams ever that featured their best player ever and Bohannon’s head was not in the game. He choked on the biggest stage. If I was an Iowa fan, I’d be praying that he doesn’t come back just to collect a check.

 

[isufbcurt]

We all know @isufbcurt would've been sponsored by Dangerous Curves

Haha. Fun fact - I've never been to a strip club. I refuse to pay to be teased.

 

[fcclone]

The money he would make as a pro would be far less than signing 5 practice jerseys at an eastern Iowa sporting goods store - so in that sense I can't blame him.

Would love to see him guard Tyrese Hunter next year!!

If he comes back next year, I’ll pay five bucks for a shirt with the image of him vomiting, with the caption “The Hawks make me puke”.

 

[Jeremy]

For the record, I really enjoy this discussion. This is a topic I am very passionate about,and I appreciate well reasoned back and forth. I don’t disagree that landscape will change. And potentially not all of the change will be for the better. But that's not reason enough to not do what's right. And I believe it's right for those players to have the same rights as any other student.

Agree - it's great to have constructive dialogue on something like this. Unfortunately, it's pretty rare in today's world.

I fully understand the push for NIL and having fair representation and compensation; it's the basis of capitalization. It's no different to why I tell people to F off when they constantly complain about Apple and others trying to charge more for a premium experience - they're businesses and their first objective is to make money. Athletes have the right to make money, especially with risk of injury, etc.

What concerns me about all of it the most is there just isn't a way to do it in a way that doesn't kill non-CFB recruiting parity. If it was truly about paying for NIL, then in theory the amount would be relatively trivial for 99% of college athletes. Somebody like JBo isn't going to get more than a few hundred from a local repair shop. But when it moves from leveraging a player's likeness for sponsorships to being paying for recruits, which it will within about 12 hrs of becoming law, then we all suffer. Unfortunately, there's no way to allow the former without ending up with the latter.

 

[Jeremy]

The school record for threes and assists. The second most threes in conference history. I get why people think he's a douche but he's had a decent career for a kid ranked in the 300's coming out of HS.

His character and behavior is the reason his accomplishments get overlooked. He's a douche first and athlete second. Hard to respect somebody that does and says a lot of the **** he does that goes way beyond just swagger.

 

[cyclone1209]

If he comes back next year, I’ll pay five bucks for a shirt with the image of him vomiting, with the caption “The Hawks make me puke”.

When he's on he's actually a good player but he lives and dies by the 3, too small to take it to the hoop and lacks a lot of athleticism.

Confusing he carries himself on social media as if he is a Wooden award winner. Life after college athletics may prove to be a tough reality check for him. I don't remember any cyclones in recent history being that whiny on social media about being a college athlete.

I get his argument but let's not act like getting a free education, being a rockstar on campus for 4 years (10 years in his experience), and playing the sport you love is indentured servitude.