The Fran fade

[kcbob79clone]

if Kansas loses both conferences have 1 team left. That’s a pretty easy calculation

Math for Dummies

 

[HFCS]

They’re bringing in one skinny white kid from Iowa who will likely not see the floor in year 1.

Makes a big difference if he's related to Fran or related to an 80s/90s Iowa player. The latter has worked out.

 

[HFCS]

I haven't read this whole thread. I think Garza is a great player but this is hyperbole at its finest. Compare these stats:
......FG%...3P%....FT%......R........A.......S........B......TO......Pts
A: .526 _ .329 _ .686 _ 7.3 _ 2.3 _ 1.6 _ 0.5 _ 2.0 _ 20.0
B: .546 _ .367 _ .701 _ 7.3 _ 1.2 _ 0.5 _ 1.2 _ 1.4 _ 18.2

You might look at that and give a slight edge to player B. But when you factor in that player A was a 4 time all conference defensive player and could - and often did - guard 1-5 and player B could barely do anything defensively but clog the lane it is clearly player A.

Grayer?

 

[ClockHawk69]

Makes a big difference if he's related to Fran or related to an 80s/90s Iowa player. The latter has worked out.

Sandfort’s parents both played CBB, though not at Iowa. He’ll likely be an ok player for us, nothing super special.

 

[HFCS]

Grayer?

I only became an ISU fan in 96 but I'm blown away when I look up highlights. His dunks are Deonte Burton level which you don't expect from that era.

 

[VeloClone]

Interesting Iowa fan thread noting the starting guard score was 63-0.

Garza is a beast in the college game but 63-0 guard scoring guarantees victory in every game.

Well...

 

[kcbob79clone]

Well, they do have the age thing going. If they play out their eligibility, PMac would be 25, Nunge 24, Murrays 24. They could compete with BYU for oldest team ever.

Oldest team ever to not make the Sweet 16

 

[whatthewhat]

I only became an ISU fan in 96 but I'm blown away when I look up highlights. His dunks are Deonte Burton level which you don't expect from that era.

The short shorts era.

 

[Neptune78]

I actually like Settles as an analyst. Of course he's a homer, but he has always been very complimentary of ISU and Hilton....

Jess has learned over the years that his media gigs will be short lived if he doesn't tone down his hok fandom. I know Jess, and to say he has always been complimentary of ISU could not be further from the truth.

 

[HFCS]

The short shorts era.

I knew who he was as a kid and that he was isu's best player but I was...an Iowa fan before college.

Being an Iowa fan in the 80s and early to mid 90s actually has me shaking my head a bit at how many can be so all-in with Fran.

 

[HFCS]

I haven't read this whole thread. I think Garza is a great player but this is hyperbole at its finest. Compare these stats:
......FG%...3P%....FT%......R........A.......S........B......TO......Pts
A: .526 _ .329 _ .686 _ 7.3 _ 2.3 _ 1.6 _ 0.5 _ 2.0 _ 20.0
B: .546 _ .367 _ .701 _ 7.3 _ 1.2 _ 0.5 _ 1.2 _ 1.4 _ 18.2

You might look at that and give a slight edge to player B. But when you factor in that player A was a 4 time all conference defensive player and could - and often did - guard 1-5 and player B could barely do anything defensively but clog the lane it is clearly player A.

A big part of it is 4 years in an era where very few All Americans even play 3 years. Here's another way to look at it:

A year one: 14.9 pts, 47%fg, 6.7 rebounds, .6 assists, 1.1 steals, .9 blocks
A year two: 18 pts, 45%fg, 7.6 rebounds, 1.1 assists, 1.0 steals, .8 blocks
A year three: 22.8 pts, 58%fg, 7.7 rebounds, 1.1 assists, .8 steals, 1.1 blocks
---Goes top 5 NBA

B year one: 12.1 pts, 56%fg, 6.4 rebounds, 1,1 assists, .3 steals, 1.0 blocks
B year two: 13.1 pts, 53%fg, 4.5 rebounds, .9 assists, .3 steals, .5 blocks
B year three: 23.9 pts, 54%fg, 9.8 rebounds, 1.2 assists, .8 steals, .1.8 blocks
---comes back for 4th year because of quirky skill set where no other players of this era with that production do

Does playing four years matter? Yes. Does that make him "the greatest player by far to ever step foot on a court in this state? No. It's really clear that his year by year production was not any more impressive than Fizer's, ton of bold there for Fizer and most where he didn't lead are very close.

Also need to note that Fizer's teams were slow paced teams. Fizer's points per ISU posession probably absolutely destroy Luka's points per Iowa possession. I'm guessing Luka's teams all averaged more points per game than Fizer's last team that finished ranked #3.

 

[JP4CY]

Of the 4 times Fran has made the 32 round @ Iowa, he's lost by 15 or more in 3 of them. Thats a little concerning.

 

[carvers4math]

So, if CJ does leave, where does that leave Iowa next year? It was already going to be a challenge with him on board, but where does the scoring come from?

What does their incoming recruiting class look like?

Hoping Fran has another kid coming up

 

[cycloner29]

If CJ transfers to Kentucky, the playing field would seem to be a little more even. I also ran across this post from our good friend @ClockHawk69. This guy is just not right upstairs.

 

[mj4cy]

The Official Duck Hunt your way to the Sweet 16 Game thread

Go HAWKS!!!!!

forum.hawkeyenation.com

Lots of F-bombs here. Quite a fun trip down memory lane from 24 hours ago.

One poster says Oregon LITERALLY didn't miss anything. Box scores says they missed 45% of their shots....

 

[mj4cy]

Of the 4 times Fran has made the 32 round @ Iowa, he's lost by 15 or more in 3 of them. Thats a little concerning.

And it took a late run against Tennessee to keep that stat from getting worse.

 

[jsb]

Did channel 13 send reporters to Indy and not to Phoenix for our bowl game?

 

[HFCS]

Did channel 13 send reporters to Indy and not to Phoenix for our bowl game?

Grand Canyon U and losing in round of 32 Oregon >>>>>>>>>>> beating Oregon in Fiesta Bowl

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Acylum]

I can’t figure out why Kentucky would have any interest in Frederick. Or does this mean just the state in general he’s going back to? I’m not trying to knock him- there’s probably <1% of transfers they’d be interested in to begin with.

 

[carvers4math]

Did channel 13 send reporters to Indy and not to Phoenix for our bowl game?

Of course they did. Never have understood the love for those guys here