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MLB: Santo seeks long-awaited Hall berth

Frankly I'm not pulling for him. I don't think he should get in as a player. All of the sentiment for him getting in lately has come from his work as an announcer and because people feel bad for him due to his physical conditions. Based on what he did on the field, I say no way.
 
I think he belongs in.

Up till when he retired he was one of the top 5 guys to pay 3rd base ever.

Since then there have been so many good ones, that he gets lost.

The big knock against him was no MVP award (on mostly a lousy team) and no World Series wins.

The Hall of Fame needs someone was as well rounded as Santo was.
 
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 1 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 2 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 3 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog

Obviously a cub fan slant... but they back it up with numbers... Oh well... The sad thing is these crotchety old bastards will probably vote him in after he is dead, even though Ronnie wants this more than anything... they just won't give it to him.
 
Didn't his number of votes go down this year? How many chances has he had to get in now? I don't think it's ever going to happen.
 
Hes not in and doesnt deserve it really anyway. Ron can quit worrying about it and focus on the Cubbies next postseason collapse...
 
superdorf said:
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 1 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 2 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog
The Hall of Fame Case for Ron Santo (Part 3 of 3) | The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog

Obviously a cub fan slant... but they back it up with numbers... Oh well... The sad thing is these crotchety old bastards will probably vote him in after he is dead, even though Ronnie wants this more than anything... they just won't give it to him.
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Okay... Did anyone actually read these links... If you did you may change your opinion... or just continue to be a Cub hater.
 
Santo was never that good. Barely better than average on mostly very poor teams.
 
superdorf said:
Seriously? Barely better than average... come on now... Isn't anyone gonna help me out here?
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I'm not going to lobby either way for Santo since I know very little about him, but I'll help you out to the extent of saying I'm glad the people saying, "He didn't have the numbers," don't have ballots. The value of a player in baseball is often more than his numbers.

Unfortunately, the fact the best relief pitcher of our era (Rich Gossage) was only elected to the HOF last year after 16 ballots tells me many who do have balloting privileges are too lazy to research a player's career. Instead, they rely on a quick scan of his "numbers." Akin to what an average bar hack can study in about 10 minutes.

That tells me the HOF will be in some real trouble when the steroid era guys (and the era-of-inflated-save-guys) become Hall eligible.
 
cyson said:
Santo was never that good. Barely better than average on mostly very poor teams.
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I don't agree with trying to say that he wasn't that good, but I have never considered him to be HOF good. It's the MLB HOF, not the Cubs 3B HOF. There's a big difference and I wouldn't even put him in the top half of the list of fellow candidates - none of whom were selected.
 
In my opinion, the Hall of Fame lets too many people in as it is. I think the criteria should be this: if you're asked if Player X should be in the Hall of Fame, and you have to think about it, the answer is no.
 
The fact that Santo isn't in is a travesty. Compare his numbers to Brooks Robinson who is considered the best 3B of that era. It's a wash statistically. Robinson just has more accolades.
 
leg4cy said:
The fact that Santo isn't in is a travesty. Compare his numbers to Brooks Robinson who is considered the best 3B of that era. It's a wash statistically. Robinson just has more accolades.
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Do you think Brooks Robinson being the best defensive 3B of all time has anything to do with it?
 
leg4cy said:
The fact that Santo isn't in is a travesty. Compare his numbers to Brooks Robinson who is considered the best 3B of that era. It's a wash statistically. Robinson just has more accolades.
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If they played on the same team, Santo would either be riding the pine or looking to switch positions.
 
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