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cycloneworld

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Who wins it?

Right now the Vikings have a 1 game lead over Chicago but have a much more difficult schedule.

Minnesota
at Arizona
Atlanta
NY Giants

Chicago
New Orleans
Green Bay
at Houston

For discussion purposes, say they both end up with the same record and Chicago beats BG...both would have the same divisional record. The next tie breaker is record against common opponents. I'm not sure who that would favor.

Thoughts?
 
cycloneworld said:
Who wins it?

Right now the Vikings have a 1 game lead over Chicago but have a much more difficult schedule.

Minnesota
at Arizona
Atlanta
NY Giants

Chicago
New Orleans
Green Bay
at Houston

For discussion purposes, say they both end up with the same record and Chicago beats BG...both would have the same divisional record. The next tie breaker is record against common opponents. I'm not sure who that would favor.

Thoughts?
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The Vikes. They hold all the tiebreakers if they tie. That means Chi has to do 1 game better.

I will say that I could see Chicago losing 2 of those three games as well. New Orleans can light up the scoreboard and Green Bay is always pretty close. Hell, Houston is playing well on offense as well.

I think the Vikes beat Atlanta and the Giants. By the last week, the Giants will be resting all their starters.
 
I think the Vikes could easily lose all of those games. NY could be a decent chance for a win, as they'll likely be resting most players.

Tough game to finish the season for Chicago - Texans looking decent to close the year. I think they lose tot the Saints and Texans and beat GB.

Looking like a decent chance to finish in a tie.
 
mplscyclone said:
I will say that I could see Chicago losing 2 of those three games as well. New Orleans can light up the scoreboard and Green Bay is always pretty close. Hell, Houston is playing well on offense as well.
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Agree about NO but they also like to lay eggs too. The Bears play well at home and I like their chances against NO and GB at Soldier Field.

22, I agree about the Texans. Although I watched the GB game (Houston should have won by 14+) and they make A LOT of mistakes.
 
I think the Vikes win the North. Yes, Minnesota has a tougher schedule down the road but how exactly will the Bears defense stop the passing game of the Saints, Packers, or Texans...
 
If the Vikings lose the two Williamses, the discussion is moot. Otherwise, I can't really see how you consider the Vikings' schedule to be "much more difficult". After all, they've already gotten by the Lions twice :wink:, and they obliterated the Giants last year, on the road.
 
Doesn't matter... unfortunately whoever wins the North will not win a game in the playoffs.

As a Packer fan... what a disappointment this season. Defense just crapped the bed the second half of the season and can't get any sort of stop at critical times. 550 yards to the Texans at home?!?!? And please don't bring up Rodgers/Favre, Rodgers has done everything asked of him this season.

5 losses of 4 points or less.
 
Cardinal&Gold11 said:
I hope to hell the vikings can win it. Its been so long since they have won the division
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Tell me about it...And I rather go into the playoffs have a ground game over a passing game...You have to run the ball to win in the playoffs so I am thinking we could make a dent in the playoffs...I don't think many teams out there say..."I really hope we get it play AD..."
 
jtd9046 said:
Doesn't matter... unfortunately whoever wins the North will not win a game in the playoffs.

As a Packer fan... what a disappointment this season. Defense just crapped the bed the second half of the season and can't get any sort of stop at critical times. 550 yards to the Texans at home?!?!? And please don't bring up Rodgers/Favre, Rodgers has done everything asked of him this season.

5 losses of 4 points or less.
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Rodgers had been fantastic on 3rd down most of the season. The last three weeks (first two possesions of the Carolina game only) Rodgers has been brutal on third down.
 
jj-cyclones said:
Tell me about it...And I rather go into the playoffs have a ground game over a passing game...You have to run the ball to win in the playoffs so I am thinking we could make a dent in the playoffs...I don't think many teams out there say..."I really hope we get it play AD..."
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Any playoff caliber team will not have problems beating the Vikings. They are too one dimensional. AP will get his yards and 1 or 2 scores, but 14 points doesn't win many playoff games.
 
ClimbIowa said:
Rodgers had been fantastic on 3rd down most of the season. The last three weeks (first two possesions of the Carolina game only) Rodgers has been brutal on third down.
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I don't have research to back it up... but the Packers have been killing themselves with penalties lately. Rodgers 3rd down success came on 3rd and manageable yards while the last few weeks they've had a ton of 3rd and long. There aren't many teams that succeed on 3rd and long.
 
Aclone said:
Otherwise, I can't really see how you consider the Vikings' schedule to be "much more difficult". After all, they've already gotten by the Lions twice :wink:, and they obliterated the Giants last year, on the road.
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Really? Here is what I mean by "much more difficult":

Minny
Arizona: 8-5
Atlanta: 8-5
NY Giants: 11-2
Combined Record: 27-12

Bears
NO: 7-6
GB: 5-8
Houston: 6-7
Combined Record: 18-21

That is the definition of "much more difficult".
 
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jtd9046 said:
I don't have research to back it up... but the Packers have been killing themselves with penalties lately. Rodgers 3rd down success came on 3rd and manageable yards while the last few weeks they've had a ton of 3rd and long. There aren't many teams that succeed on 3rd and long.
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Yep. A lot of penalties, but Rodgers completed third an anything for a while, against the Texans he consistently missed on 3rd and short. I still love what he brings as a qb, but I've been singing his 3rd down praises all year, and now I'm forced to criticize.
 
The Vikings have been able to put up points when they need to. They scored 41 against the Bears earlier this year. They can also grind out wins when they need to. Both against the Lions for some reason. They have a very good running game, and a so-so passing game that could explode every once and a while. They could surprise someone in the playoffs. That is, if they even make the playoffs
 
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