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armount

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what happens if the bears win out and the vikings finish 2-1, they would both have records of 10-6, and 4-2 in the division. what does the tie breaker go to after that?

And i do realize that the nfc north is terrible and it probably won't matter what team wins the division.
 
I haven't been able to figure out what the exact tie breaker is. Everyone here in Chicago says the Vikings own it though and that the Bears have to finish 1 game ahead of the Vikings to actually win the North.

I wish I had more information on what the tie breaker is though.
 
If the Vikings had lost today, then they both could win out and the Bears would win because of division, but since they won, the Vikings own the conference tiebreak if they lose one. The Vikings have to choke to lose the division.
 
For Bears and Vikings...

(1) Head-to-head
(2) Record vs. division
(3) Record in common games (vs. NFC South and AFC South)
(4) Record against NFC
(5) Strength of victory
(6) Strength of schedule
(7) Best combined ranking among NFC teams in points scored and points allowed
(8) Best combined ranking among ALL teams in points scored and points allowed
(9) Best net points in all common games
(10) Best net points in all games
(11) Best net touchdowns in all games
(12) Coin toss
 
the vikings do have a fairly tough schedule so as a bears fan i can only hope the bears win and and the vikings lose 2, but i just wanted to see what would happen in case of the tie.
 
theshadow said:
For Bears and Vikings...

(1) Head-to-head
(2) Record vs. division
(3) Record in common games (vs. NFC South and AFC South)
(4) Record against NFC
(5) Strength of victory
(6) Strength of schedule
(7) Best combined ranking among NFC teams in points scored and points allowed
(8) Best combined ranking among ALL teams in points scored and points allowed
(9) Best net points in all common games
(10) Best net points in all games
(11) Best net touchdowns in all games
(12) Coin toss
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Didn't know about #3. I don't know how that one looks. I hope the Bears pull it out.
 
TIEBREAKER #3:
Minnesota is 5-2 in those common games (with 1 left). The best Chicago can do is 4-4.
 
Clonefan94 said:
I haven't been able to figure out what the exact tie breaker is. Everyone here in Chicago says the Vikings own it though and that the Bears have to finish 1 game ahead of the Vikings to actually win the North.

I wish I had more information on what the tie breaker is though.
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Here are the tiebreakers for divison:

  1. Head to Head -> Push as these teams split
  2. Best Win-Loss within division -> The Vikes are 4-2, Bears 3-2; In the scenario of Bears winning out would make both 4-2 and would be a push.
  3. Win - Loss in Common Games -> Have to look at out of division common teams:
    1. Indy - Chicago won, MN lost - Advantage Chi
    2. Carolina - MN won, CHI lost - Advantage MN
    3. Jacksonville - MN won, Chi won - PUSH
    4. Tenn - Both Lost - PUSH
    5. New Orleans - MN won, Chicago won (under your scenario) - PUSH
    6. Tampa - Both lost - PUSH
    7. Atlanta - Chi lost, MN could lose (could win also. since your Bears fan, I'll put they lose) - PUSH
    8. Houston - MN wins, Chicago wins (under your scenario) - PUSH
    9. Basically if MN beats Atlanta then they win this tie breaker, otherwise it's a push as they'd both be 4-4 in these 8 games.
  4. Win - Loss within conference: Minnesota is 5-3, while Chicago is 5-5. Under your scenario Chicago would be 7-5 (58%), and MN would be 7-4 (63%). MN would win this tie breaker.
To recap there is NO way Chicago wins the tie breaker. The only way for Chicago to win the division is to win by 1 game.

EDIT: There are several more tiebreakers, but it couldn't possibly get past #4. If Chicago ends up getting the better Conference record then that means they will have won the division hence no need for tiebreakers.
 
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With Brandon Jacobs getting hurt today and the fact the Giants will be in a position to rest players I don't think the starters will play the entire game. Jacobs will probably sit the rest of the season and heal for the playoffs. That being said it should make it easier on the Vikings. They still have to beat Arizona and Atlanta.
 
Arizona could be interesting. The Cardinals love to throw the ball and the Vikings aren't very good defending the pass. Someone will have to step up in that game or else Warner might carve them up.

Btw did anyone see the block that was put on Jared Allen? I thought that was totally unnecessary! That's the kind of hit that could ruin someone's career
 
yeah, that hit pissed me off and it apparently pissed allen off too. btw, i was way excited that jackson stepped up in frerrote's absence. he played great and hopefully will be the starter the rest of the year!
 
hiwhatis said:
yeah, that hit pissed me off and it apparently pissed allen off too. btw, i was way excited that jackson stepped up in frerrote's absence. he played great and hopefully will be the starter the rest of the year!
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I hope he plays the rest of the year as well. I know he makes some very bad decisions some times, but Gus looked terrible just as much as T-Jax did. Plus Gus has absolutely no mobility.
 
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