The Fran fade

Yep. It is like the people who were the phone salespeople at Enron. They wanted you to believe that old Ken boy and the step below him were the only ones to blame, they weren't. The people on the phones were making crazy sales pitches and pulling in people on extremely risky ventures and getting good commissions on it. How many turned around and gave back a chunk of their commissions to help the people they sold that crap too? He is trying to blame it on one or two people. If you look the other way and/or profit from it by supporting the actions, you are to blame also.
I personally know African Americans in the program that never experienced any of the things the coaches are being accused of. They didn't "look the other way". I don't think they are lying when they say that and I know them well enough that I would support them whether they leave the program or remain with the program.
 
Worse IMO, COVID year and injuries and plus Prohm is in the prime of his career whereas Dr. Tom was on the backside of his.

Tom's last 3 years were 62-31 and he coached another 4 years at Drake with NCAA appearance 2 of the 3 years so you will forgive us if we don't take coach retention direction from the fanbase that ran that off.
 
I personally know African Americans in the program that never experienced any of the things the coaches are being accused of. They didn't "look the other way". I don't think they are lying when they say that and I know them well enough that I would support them whether they leave the program or remain with the program.
So, either they looked the other way, nothing ever happened, or they complained and Kirk did nothing. Basically the only three things that could have happened in those scenarios. Two of them would have had me dropping my donations and season tickets. I believe people should do what's right, not what is convenient.
 
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Yep. It is like the people who were the phone salespeople at Enron. They wanted you to believe that old Ken boy and the step below him were the only ones to blame, they weren't. The people on the phones were making crazy sales pitches and pulling in people on extremely risky ventures and getting good commissions on it. How many turned around and gave back a chunk of their commissions to help the people they sold that crap too? He is trying to blame it on one or two people. If you look the other way and/or profit from it by supporting the actions, you are to blame also.
There were also thousands that had nothing to do with it that lost their jobs and their livelihoods. Don't forget them.
 
So, either they looked the other way, nothing ever happened, or they complained and Kirk did nothing. Basically the only three things that could have happened in those scenarios. Two of them would have had me dropping my donations and season tickets. I believe people should do what's right, not what is convenient.
You assume a lot.
 
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Same reason that Heisman trophy winners go undrafted. Great college players don't always translate to the next level.
So, in the last 50 years two Heisman winners have not made an NFL team. 1993 Charlie Ward went to NBA instead and 2003 Jason White went undrafted and then cited weak knees and turned down tryout offers.
Which of these reasons will be Luka's? Weak knees or is he going to NFL (or maybe UFC?).
 
There were also thousands that had nothing to do with it that lost their jobs and their livelihoods. Don't forget them.
Actually, there weren't thousands, many that were baseline workers were still employed when enron sold off their businesses to others. There were too many uninvolved who lost their jobs I will agree. Anyhow, I was talking about the sales people which here would be the coaches. They know what kirk and Doyle are like and still pumped them up to recruits. If you want to say the players got hosed like the office support staff of the enron lineman who did lose their jobs, yeah I will give you that. But the coaches on the staff are ALL to blame. The video people and office people are many times retained by the next coaches, so if you are still donating because of them, they most likely will be employed anyhow; unless they are female, then Barta may can them.
 
So, in the last 50 years two Heisman winners have not made an NFL team. 1993 Charlie Ward went to NBA instead and 2003 Jason White went undrafted and then cited weak knees and turned down tryout offers.
Which of these reasons will be Luka's? Weak knees or is he going to NFL (or maybe UFC?).

Luka's reason will be he is too unathletic. That isn't a big secret.
 
So, in the last 50 years two Heisman winners have not made an NFL team. 1993 Charlie Ward went to NBA instead and 2003 Jason White went undrafted and then cited weak knees and turned down tryout offers.
Which of these reasons will be Luka's? Weak knees or is he going to NFL (or maybe UFC?).
Luka in the UFC would be brutal and cruel.
 
Actually, there weren't thousands, many that were baseline workers were still employed when enron sold off their businesses to others. There were too many uninvolved who lost their jobs I will agree. Anyhow, I was talking about the sales people which here would be the coaches. They know what kirk and Doyle are like and still pumped them up to recruits. If you want to say the players got hosed like the office support staff of the enron lineman who did lose their jobs, yeah I will give you that. But the coaches on the staff are ALL to blame. The video people and office people are many times retained by the next coaches, so if you are still donating because of them, they most likely will be employed anyhow; unless they are female, then Barta may can them.

Might want to tell Urban Meyer about Doyle, I'm not sure if he knows.
 
You think Urban Meyer doesn't know, better yet, do you think he cares? UM is not someone I respect as a human, can coach, but is a poor example of humanity.

Maybe you should alert all of the players on the team then.
 

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