The Fran fade

So you're paying to watch Iowa tonight?

LOL, guess I am. Just feels different when it is part of my regular package and not an add-on. I got ESPN + to watch the first two rounds of the Masters and then dropped it.
 
You haven’t though. Your attempts at rationalization aside. You actually run to a cyclone website to defend all things Kirk. So that means that you support the way he has run his program, right?

when you read African American athletes saying if you can survive being a black athlete in the Iowa program, you can survive anything, didn’t that bother you to know that your coach fostered a racist culture?
I've said multiple times and @CyTwins will vouch for me, that I thought it would be best for all parties, if the Ferentz's resigned before this past season. That being said, I personally know many people that are and have been involved in the football program, and I'm not going to stop supporting those people. They did nothing wrong.
 
ESPN+ is great. It took over Cyclones.tv

BTN has been awesome for over a decade now. I used to have to purchase the ESPN Gameplan for Football and ESPN Full Court for Basketball to watch all of my Iowa games. I get all that with BTN and they also show a lot of wrestling, which is amazing.
 
BTN has been awesome for over a decade now. I used to have to purchase the ESPN Gameplan for Football and ESPN Full Court for Basketball to watch all of my Iowa games. I get all that with BTN and they also show a lot of wrestling, which is amazing.
What about BTN+?
 
What about BTN+?

They usually only do that for OOC games that are meaningless. I'll get it for a month and then drop it usually. Don't recall any conference games on BTN + but could be wrong on that. Either way BTN has been amazing for me.
 
They usually only do that for OOC games that are meaningless. I'll get it for a month and then drop it usually. Don't recall any conference games on BTN + but could be wrong on that. Either way BTN has been amazing for me.
What about wrestling?
 
What about wrestling?

Iowa has been on BTN a lot the last couple of years and when I usually add BTN+ for a month or two for bball it coincides for when I need it for wrestling. BTN I feel has made an already tough conference even tougher with their wrestling coverage.
 
Iowa has been on BTN a lot the last couple of years and when I usually add BTN+ for a month or two for bball it coincides for when I need it for wrestling. BTN I feel has made an already tough conference even tougher with their wrestling coverage.
That's a lot to pay for
 
I've said multiple times and @CyTwins will vouch for me, that I thought it would be best for all parties, if the Ferentz's resigned before this past season. That being said, I personally know many people that are and have been involved in the football program, and I'm not going to stop supporting those people. They did nothing wrong.

So you’re cool with what they did, then.

got it.
 
So you’re cool with what they did, then.

got it.
Yep. It is like the people who were the phone salespeople at Enron. They wanted you to believe that old Ken boy and the step below him were the only ones to blame, they weren't. The people on the phones were making crazy sales pitches and pulling in people on extremely risky ventures and getting good commissions on it. How many turned around and gave back a chunk of their commissions to help the people they sold that crap too? He is trying to blame it on one or two people. If you look the other way and/or profit from it by supporting the actions, you are to blame also.
 
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I rated it dumb because I thought it was dumb.

If you need an explanation for every rating that someone gives you that you disagree with then you will be fairly busy on here seeking out explanations.
How is it dumb? You prop up Fran because no former players say anything bad about him but then ignore what former players say about Kirk. That literally doesn't make sense
 
I don't have a dog in this fight. I just think the Athletic Dept would be doing him a big disservice if they forced him out or fired him during a COVID year and having injuries. It would be a terrible look for a coach that has won two Big 12 Conference Tournaments and made one Sweet 16.

Are you saying that letting Prohm go would be like what Iowa did to Tom Davis?
 

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