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CyTwins said:
7. If you're claiming racial discrimination from a person you're calling them racist
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He's arguing semantics because he wants to prove you wrong. If you said the players claimed Kirk to be racist, but they actually said he was racially insensitive, he believes you're wrong and therefore your entire claim is wrong.
 
TrianglePlace said:
So zero former players have called KF a racist. Got it.

That shouldn't have taken almost 24 hours to clear up but glad we finally got there.
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Tell me what you think is the difference between racial discrimination and racism?
 
Statefan10 said:
He's arguing semantics because he wants to prove you wrong. If you said the players claimed Kirk to be racist, but they actually said he was racially insensitive, he believes you're wrong and therefore your entire claim is wrong.
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It's sad watching honestly. If roles were reversed I would never do that
 
jmb said:
They have been discussed but there really is nothing comparable. The kstate is comparing apples to hash browns. It is odd how hard you are trying to minimize the depth and breadth of racism at Iowa.
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Not trying to minimize anything, just waiting for the results of the investigation.
 
TrianglePlace said:
I didn't say just this forum or specific thread. Okie State issues, Utah issues, Mississippi State issues, Kansas State issues, etc. I'm sure all those have been talked about on this board at some point.

Otherwise, it just shows you care more about Iowa football going down than what actually happened.
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1) I posted in the Kstate thread (that situation is way different than this, so there is 0 comparison there), so I got you covered there


2). I don’t spend my whole life on this site like you apparently do. I check off and on and at times may be off for a couple days or longer at a time. So I do miss threads (and will skip 40-50 pages in some of these ISR threads).

I expect ISU coaches to be inclusive and would support termination if they showed -ism of sort, bullied players, embarrassed them by openly posting grades, calling them a re**** (having worked in that field it really ticks me off), and so on.

Tell me, how does the Iowa situation change any by what happens with Utah, Kstate, Okie state, Mich state, Penn state or anybody else?
 
Statefan10 said:
Those definitions do not help his case in trying to say Kirk's not even a little bit racist and / or the allegations brought forward do not show there was racism, institutional racism and racial discrimination within the culture.
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I think it has actually helped me understand with more clarity they ought be a legal and moral peril.

I am incensed about the taking of food away from at least one athlete.
 
jmb said:
I think it has actually helped me understand with more clarity they ought be a legal and moral peril.

I am incensed about the taking of food away from at least one athlete.
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That's why some of the former players lawyered up. They know this investigation isn't going to be fair and just.
 
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