Anything other than at least sweet 16 for this Iowa team is a massive failure.
Gotta strike while the iron is somewhat hot.
Gotta strike while the iron is somewhat hot.
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It is truly astounding to me that the national prospectus for Iowa is this high. They will be decent, maybe even good. But I just can't see a Fran coached team making a Final 4 run, let alone compete for a Big 10 title
Not Sweet 16 but if they dont get to a Final Four or if they have a bad Elite 8 loss it's a failure.Anything other than at least sweet 16 for this Iowa team is a massive failure.
Gotta strike while the iron is somewhat hot.
If the cheating refs dont call their games, I have high hopes for them.It is truly astounding to me that the national prospectus for Iowa is this high. They will be decent, maybe even good. But I just can't see a Fran coached team making a Final 4 run, let alone compete for a Big 10 title
Not Sweet 16 but if they dont get to a Final Four or if they have a bad Elite 8 loss it's a failure.
I don't think they can even make the Sweet 16 honestly
So all of Hoiberg's teams and the first two years of Prohm were failures? They couldn't get past the sweet 16.
Which ones were predicted to be final four teams? IIRC only his last team was even predicted to be a top 4 Big 12 team.
Well that changes everything
ISU spent time in the top 10 3 years in a row from '13-'16 and never made it past the sweet 16. ISU was pre season #7 in 2015. Many people had ISU in the final 4 the year they lost to that small Bama school, including Jon Miller.
I mean according to ISU fans these were all disappointing years then. That isn't even talking about the fact that winning 4 Big12 conference tournament titles with ZERO elite 8 appearance is crushingly disappointing and underachieving on an epic level. I mean I'm told these conference tournament titles are the most elite of accomplishments, yet ISU can't get past the sweet 16 at all?
4 Big12 conference titles and only 2 sweet 16's, yikes that is crazy disappointing. You'd think you win something as prestigious as that, you would be a lock for the Elite 8.
Georges breaking his foot was brutal luck honestly
Disappointing NCAA tournament runs? Sure. Disappointing seasons? No. It's incredibly hilarious that you're even speaking on the fact that we made "ZERO elite 8 appearances" and that's "crushingly disappointing and underachieving on an epic level", when the team you root for hasn't made a Sweet 16 in over 20 years. There are kids currently on the Iowa roster that have zero recollection of a great Iowa basketball team. Also, your entire fanbase was ranting and raving about how good the team was just last year and yet the team finished #25 in the nation and was on a spiral to end the season.ISU spent time in the top 10 3 years in a row from '13-'16 and never made it past the sweet 16. ISU was pre season #7 in 2015. Many people had ISU in the final 4 the year they lost to that small Bama school, including Jon Miller.
I mean according to ISU fans these were all disappointing years then. That isn't even talking about the fact that winning 4 Big12 conference tournament titles with ZERO elite 8 appearance is crushingly disappointing and underachieving on an epic level. I mean I'm told these conference tournament titles are the most elite of accomplishments, yet ISU can't get past the sweet 16 at all?
Disappointing NCAA tournament runs? Sure. Disappointing seasons? No. It's incredibly hilarious that you're even speaking on the fact that we made "ZERO elite 8 appearances" and that's "crushingly disappointing and underachieving on an epic level", when the team you root for hasn't made a Sweet 16 in over 20 years. There are kids currently on the Iowa roster that have zero recollection of a great Iowa basketball team. Also, your entire fanbase was ranting and raving about how good the team was just last year and yet the team finished #25 in the nation and was on a spiral to end the season.
Since the year 2000 the list of accomplishments for Iowa State is pretty good all things considered. The list of accomplishments for Iowa on the other hand would be pretty meh, and towards the top of the list of those accomplishments would be beating Iowa State on their home floor.
Exactly. We were God awful last year. Want to know another team that beat us on our home floor? Florida A&M.During their worst season in over 40 years
Disappointing NCAA tournament runs? Sure. Disappointing seasons? No. It's incredibly hilarious that you're even speaking on the fact that we made "ZERO elite 8 appearances" and that's "crushingly disappointing and underachieving on an epic level", when the team you root for hasn't made a Sweet 16 in over 20 years. There are kids currently on the Iowa roster that have zero recollection of a great Iowa basketball team. Also, your entire fanbase was ranting and raving about how good the team was just last year and yet the team finished #25 in the nation and was on a spiral to end the season.
Since the year 2000 the list of accomplishments for Iowa State is pretty good all things considered. The list of accomplishments for Iowa on the other hand would be pretty meh, and towards the top of the list of those accomplishments would be beating Iowa State on their home floor.
I’m responding to ISU fans claiming that making an elite 8 for Iowa this year would be disappointing, which is a crazy stupid thing to say. So it looks like my post clearly illustrated how stupid that thinking is using ISU as the example.
If Iowa makes the Elite 8 next year that will not be disappointing. I don't care what they were rated to start the year, because the rankings are so fluid and college basketball is so up and down. The only way I would say it would be disappointing I guess would be if Iowa had 1 or 2 losses to end the regular season. They'd be a favorite for the title, and anything less than a final 4 trip would be disappointing. It would not, however, be a failure of a season. The tournament is a crap shoot.I’m responding to ISU fans claiming that making an elite 8 for Iowa this year would be disappointing, which is a crazy stupid thing to say. So it looks like my post clearly illustrated how stupid that thinking is using ISU as the example.