Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

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I'm sure that Wadley's mom's lawyer, Robert T Green, has the emails and texts now. I would imagine that he plans to release them at the appropriate time when they would do the most damage. Also, she would probably include them in her book when it gets published.

Oh yea, you don't release this stuff all at once, you trickle it out periodically to keep pressure on the University.
 
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One is credible. The other's credibility is a question mark

I didnt mention the credibility of either one in my question about what book gets published first.

Those are the only 2 people that I know of that were formerly associated with the program or have a family member associated with the program that have made comments about writing a book.
 
I still think that this will drag out and Kirk is allowed to coach one final year and "retire on his terms".

That's probably exactly what they are planning.
>Saves 2020 season from being a total reset-button mess.
>Gives Brian a year to distance himself from this so he can get his next gig.
>Gives Barta more time to line up a replacement coach, since it can't be Brian now.
 
You are, most likely intentionally, leaving out the fact that the overwhelming majority of former players that have spoken out have not said blamed KF for any of this. They have also said they believe he can make the needed changes.

No current players or family members of current players have called for KF to be fired. Its their (former and current players) program, they probably know more than you or I what is best for it.

I get you and a bunch of other ISU fans want KF gone but I would bet most of it has very little to do with the last 2 weeks and more to do with wanting to see the Iowa football program go down the tubes and give the ISU football program a leg up.
Except.....they haven't lol. Not being mentioned in accusations and your players literally saying the words "we don't blame KF" are two COMPLETELY different things. Pull your head from arse
 
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Is Brodie0 Iowa's version of Randomfan44?

I also saw where Quaker Oats was retiring Aunt Jemima. Next it will be Uncle Ben's followed by Brian "Pillsbury Dough Boy" Ferentz
You are pilfering Onion material with this post. Just sayin. :)
 
I didnt mention the credibility of either one in my question about what book gets published first.

Those are the only 2 people that I know of that were formerly associated with the program or have a family member associated with the program that have made comments about writing a book.
Serious question again. You said ISU fans are asking for Kirk to answer and don't accept his answers. You have yet to respond to my post commenting on Kirk's challenge being believed. Why do you believe him when he says he didn't know about things happening in his program but then expect anyone to believe that he knows about other much smaller minutiae? Want mental pretzel do you have to turn your brain into to make that fair and logical?
 
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Serious question again. You said ISU fans are asking for Kirk to answer and don't accept his answers. You have yet to respond to my post commenting on Kirk's challenge being believed. Why do you believe him when he says he didn't know about things happening in his program but then expect anyone to believe that he knows about other much smaller minutiae? Want mental pretzel do you have to turn your brain into to make that fair and logical?

It goes back to my original post about this then, why are you all shouting for him to answer if you dont believe his answer? Just wait for the investigation to play out then.

Its obviously a no win until then. Stay silent and dont respond to every individual accusation and you are hiding something, answer questions and that information is dismissed.
 
You are, most likely intentionally, leaving out the fact that the overwhelming majority of former players that have spoken out have not said blamed KF for any of this. They have also said they believe he can make the needed changes.

No current players or family members of current players have called for KF to be fired. Its their (former and current players) program, they probably know more than you or I what is best for it.

I get you and a bunch of other ISU fans want KF gone but I would bet most of it has very little to do with the last 2 weeks and more to do with wanting to see the Iowa football program go down the tubes and give the ISU football program a leg up.

Holy ****! Do you really believe your own drivel?!!!!

You actually think that there is some statistical data you can pull on this topic to analyze it?

You actually think that because the players (18-22 year olds that haven't run any kind of organization in their life) are the definitive source as to who is at blame here?

You actually think a current player or their family members that want any shot at having playing time will call for Kirk to be fired in public? His retaliating for such insubordination is a big part of why this mess exists.

You don't believe that and frankly, you are crappy at even faking it.

I for one, would love to see KF coach at Iowa for another 10 years and then hand it off to BF for another 40. I sincerely hope the Ferentz's define the Hok football legacy for the next century. I do NOT root for Iowa to do smart things with their athletics. They are my rival. With the resources that Iowa has it would be all too possible (not likely) that Barta would glob on to someone that could do real things with Hok football. That would make me sad.

But I am embarrassed as an Iowan by birth and with much of my family still there - that a state institution would be allowed to handle something like this so miserably. And I don't mean handle in what personnel actions are taken, I mean handle in being open and transparent and professional - especially with all that is going on in our culture right now.
That is why this **** pisses me off

You, and a certain, large faction of Hokdom, want to sweep this all under the carpet. Not because you want to keep KF or anybody else but because it is Hokdom and only Hoks are smart enough to police Hokdom and anyone who doesn't agree with that is not worthy or capable of comprehending Hokdom. Same **** show, different level, different day.
 
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Holy ****! Do you really believe your own drivel?!!!!

You actually think that there is some statistical data you can pull on this topic to analyze it?

You actually think that because the players (18-22 year olds that haven't run any kind of organization in their life) are the definitive source as to who is at blame here?

You actually think a current player or their family members that want any shot at having playing time will call for Kirk to be fired in public? His retaliating for such insubordination is a big part of why this mess exists.

You don't believe that and frankly, you are crappy at even faking it.

I for one, would love to see KF coach at Iowa for another 10 years and then hand it off to BF for another 40. I sincerely hope the Ferentz's define the Hok football legacy for the next century. I do NOT root for Iowa to do smart things with their athletics. They are my rival. With the resources that Iowa has it would be all too possible (not likely) that Barta would glob on to someone that could do real things with Hok football. That would make me sad.

But I am embarrassed as an Iowan by birth and with much of my family still there - that a state institution would be allowed to handle something like this so miserably. And I don't mean handle in what personnel actions are taken, I mean handle in being open and transparent and professional - especially with all that is going on in our culture right now.
That is why this **** pisses me off

You, and a certain, large faction of Hokdom, want to sweep this all under the carpet. Not because you want to keep KF or anybody else but because it is Hokdom and only Hoks are smart enough to police Hokdom and anyone who doesn't agree with that is not worthy or capable of comprehending Hokdom. Same **** show, different level, different day.
What's your solution or what would you do differently? They forced Doyle out because he was the main culprit in all of this. All players, past and present, that have spoken out have said Kirk Ferentz is capable of leading this program through the changes that need to happen. If they didn't truly believe that, why wouldn't past players be honest? What do they have to lose by saying Kirk has to go. I think the answer here is that no matter what path Iowa takes forward, you are going to be critical because, well, it's Iowa.
 
What's your solution or what would you do differently? They forced Doyle out because he was the main culprit in all of this. All players, past and present, that have spoken out have said Kirk Ferentz is capable of leading this program through the changes that need to happen. If they didn't truly believe that, why wouldn't past players be honest? What do they have to lose by saying Kirk has to go. I think the answer here is that no matter what path Iowa takes forward, you are going to be critical because, well, it's Iowa.

This is untrue.

Edit: yes the majority have said that, but not all.
 
What's your solution or what would you do differently? They forced Doyle out because he was the main culprit in all of this. All players, past and present, that have spoken out have said Kirk Ferentz is capable of leading this program through the changes that need to happen. If they didn't truly believe that, why wouldn't past players be honest? What do they have to lose by saying Kirk has to go. I think the answer here is that no matter what path Iowa takes forward, you are going to be critical because, well, it's Iowa.

What else could they do?

Well, KF could start by apologizing for starters, but I guess that’s asking too much, huh?

Even when asked if he should apologize, KF said “nope”.

So yeah, I don’t believe a word KF says about any of this if he can’t apologize.

Oh.... and he still believes the players should have come to him first too. He hasn’t learned a single thing from all this IMO.
 
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