Iowa Football Recruiting

Interesting. He doesn't look like a scholarship worthy player IMO and no that's not trolling

Based solely off his stats I would agree, but he is only taking up a scholarship for one year (considering they have open scholarships for 2020). Iowa will be really young at DE in 2021, so not a bad idea to get some more experienced depth.
 
I would say it mostly has to do with that Kirk was not viewed as the bad guy in all of this because he was not the one behaving negatively directly towards the African American players. Doyle and Brian were the ones that were making these gross comments and therefore are the ones deserving the blame. Some players do think Kirk deserves blame though and he was definitely part of the problem. If Kirk wasn't the problem and was a saint in all of this, he would not currently be being investigated for racial disparities within the program he runs.

KF does deserve blame for having the issues with Doyle and some others happen under his nose without being aware. I think he acknowledges that. It's a really, really good thing that players and former players finally were able to be heard so that the program can undergo the necessary change. An overwhelming majority of African-American players and former players have nothing but respect and great things to say about KF, much as that pains you to hear. This is going to create a better culture for everyone and strengthen the program, much as that, too, pains you to hear.

The only ones whose opinions and feelings matter in all of this are the players and former players who've been affected. If they're happy with how the program is doing and how things are moving ahead, that's all I care about.
 
Here you go again attributing “gross comments” to Brian. What is Brian accused of saying that was racist? So far we have him asking a black player wearing a ski mask if he was going to rob a gas station. That is the only allegation we have heard so far.
They are currently investigating to figure everything out. Until then here's a great story that you and your other Iowa friend can use to help map everything out so I don't have to keep answering questions that can be found with a quick google search.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...hawkeyes-football-allegations-tweets-20200611

If you scroll to the bottom you can find Brian's allegations against him.
 
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KF does deserve blame for having the issues with Doyle and some others happen under his nose without being aware. I think he acknowledges that. It's a really, really good thing that players and former players finally were able to be heard so that the program can undergo the necessary change. An overwhelming majority of African-American players and former players have nothing but respect and great things to say about KF, much as that pains you to hear. This is going to create a better culture for everyone and strengthen the program, much as that, too, pains you to hear.
The culture and the team will most definitely be strengthened for the future. That does not pain me to hear at all. Accountability is still needed though. If the investigation finds Kirk was approached by his players about these issues and Kirk turned them away, he should resign.
 
You are reading mostly vague and conclusory tweets from players, and using them to attribute comments/actions to specific coaches and label them as racists without any details. That’s completely irresponsible.
The coaches were being racist.. Is that better for ya? Keep defending and deflecting though.
 
The culture and the team will most definitely be strengthened for the future. That does not pain me to hear at all. Accountability is still needed though. If the investigation finds Kirk was approached by his players about these issues and Kirk turned them away, he should resign.

Agree. I think if there was a systemic problem where players were going to KF and complaining and he was turning them away with nothing being done, we'd probably have heard that from the ones who have spoken up. But time will tell.
 
They are currently investigating to figure everything out. Until then here's a great story that you and your other Iowa friend can use to help map everything out so I don't have to keep answering questions that can be found with a quick google search.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...hawkeyes-football-allegations-tweets-20200611

If you scroll to the bottom you can find Brian's allegations against him.

So we have (1) ski mask comment, (2) telling a player his tattoo is dumb, and (3) saying he hoped a player would get injured.

Aside from the ski mask comment, there is nothing there to suggest any racially motivated conduct from Brian. Despite that, you are calling him a racist, while acknowledging that the investigation is pending! Don’t you think it would be prudent to actually wait for evidence to surface, or for the investigation to be completed, before labeling someone a racist when there is no evidence to suggest that is true?
 
So we have (1) ski mask comment, (2) telling a player his tattoo is dumb, and (3) saying he hoped a player would get injured.

Aside from the ski mask comment, there is nothing there to suggest any racially motivated conduct from Brian. Despite that, you are calling him a racist, while acknowledging that the investigation is pending! Don’t you think it would be prudent to actually wait for evidence to surface, or for the investigation to be completed, before labeling someone a racist when there is no evidence to suggest that is true?

Lol what a take:

"Besides the racist comment Brian made that I found disgusting and thought he should be put on administrative leave for saying he really hasn't done anything else that bad"
 
So we have (1) ski mask comment, (2) telling a player his tattoo is dumb, and (3) saying he hoped a player would get injured.

Aside from the ski mask comment, there is nothing there to suggest any racially motivated conduct from Brian. Despite that, you are calling him a racist, while acknowledging that the investigation is pending! Don’t you think it would be prudent to actually wait for evidence to surface, or for the investigation to be completed, before labeling someone a racist when there is no evidence to suggest that is true?
Brian made the ski mask comment two times actually. And I'm just going off the statements that Iowa Hawkeye Football players made about what needs to change. Jaleel Johnson specifically noted Chris Doyle and Brian Ferentz as the problems.

There is not evidence that proves Brian is a full blown racist, but there is evidence that he's used racially insensitive comments towards African American players and former players have called him one of the two biggest problems within the program.
 
I actually haven't gone off the deep end. Look at that definition of the word racist and prove me wrong. Again, you're not understanding that you don't have to be a yee haw confederate flag flying hill billy to be a little bit racist.

Kirk himself had rules discriminating against African Americans. Kirk allowed his coaches to use language that was racially insensitive towards African Americans. That is racist. Is it racist enough for the players to despise Kirk? Most of them no, and partially because Kirk wasn't the one using the racist language. The rules don't cause as much of an uproar as direct communication does.

Also, Barta admitted Iowa already had a committee for these types of issues to be brought up, so it's pretty interesting Iowa's adding another double secret committee that is ACTUALLY going to help out.
So you are accusing Kirk of being racist but the players are not.
 
So you are accusing Kirk of being racist but the players are not.
The rules were racially biased towards African Americans. So was the drug testing (per a former player's accusation). The reason Kirk is not being blamed as much is because there's little to no evidence Kirk was demeaning to his players or making racial comments like his inferiors were.
 
Dude they literally ignored and avoided the issue. That actually happened. The only reason why Iowa's going through this mess is because there was a chain reaction after Matt Hankins decided to post on instagram. Had that not happened, Doyle would be your S&E coach still and the program you root for would not be investigated for racial disparities and racial discrimination!

And to your bottom part.. Don't try and make me feel guilty. I felt the exact same way about Baylor, I feel the same way about Kansas basketball and how they've dealt with situations, I felt the same about Ohio State with Urban, and I felt the same way about Penn State with Joe Paterno. Your the one that is actively defending the fact that Kirk Ferentz should not be held accountable for running the program like he did. If someone needs to look in the mirror, it should not be me.

I am not defending Kirk and I'm also not calling him a racist like you are. I've read everything previous players have said about Kirk and none of them are calling him racist...but you have. If they were accusing him of being racist I would be the first one to say he should be fired. The head man is always accountable for what happens within his program but the players seem to really like Kirk and aren't pointing fingers at him. They think he is a good person and a good coach and that the change they would like to see happen, can happen with Kirk in charge. That's enough for me as an alum and as a fan to support Kirk in hopes that things will get better.
 
The rules were racially biased towards African Americans. So was the drug testing (per a former player's accusation). The reason Kirk is not being blamed as much is because there's little to no evidence Kirk was demeaning to his players or making racial comments like his inferiors were.

What rules were racially biased against the black players?
 
We have one player accusing Brian of making a racially insensitive comment. Outside of that, it is vague and conclusory statements that Brian is a “problem.” You are taking those vague and conclusory statements to draw conclusions about Brian that are not warranted by the facts that we have. If you want to do that, go right on ahead. Just don’t get upset when people call you out for presenting your conclusions as fact when they are anything but.
I'm not upset that you're calling me out lol I'm upset that you're not taking into account the words of players from your favorite program specifically stating Brian is part of the problem at Iowa. What is that problem do you ask? Well let's just look at what Iowa's being investigated for.. A systematically racist culture. So pardon me for thinking this guy might be a little bit racist. I'll pile that onto thinking he's a little bit homophobic too.
 
What's up with recruiting after this major issue with the Iowa program?

No Iowa decomits so far. A recent Crystal Ball for Oladokun back to Iowa. And they got the commit from QB Labas, who in my super-non-expert eyes looks pretty good in his hudl tape, and apparently is getting a big bump from 247.

Who are the Iowa commits ISU is trying to flip? There should be some. Doyle is gone now. That's a major selling point of the Iowa program that just went away.
 
What's up with recruiting after this major issue with the Iowa program?

No Iowa decomits so far. A recent Crystal Ball for Oladokun back to Iowa. And they got the commit from QB Labas, who in my super-non-expert eyes looks pretty good in his hudl tape, and apparently is getting a big bump from 247.

Who are the Iowa commits ISU is trying to flip? There should be some. Doyle is gone now. That's a major selling point of the Iowa program that just went away.
I would be shocked if there weren't some decommits coming.
 

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