Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

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That's certainly not what I said. I believe that they think Kirk isn't to blame as much in this situation because Doyle, Brian, and others carried out most of the disgusting actions. They don't view Kirk as being at fault. I can definitely understand their side in thinking Kirk deserves the opportunity to right the ship.

What I said was, because this is turning into a legality issue, these players opinions are not going to hold much weight.

Do we know what Brian did that would constitute most of the “disgusting actions?” I know several players have said he is part of the problem, but I can’t recall any specific stories about Brian other than the Wadley mask incident. Apparently last night on a radio show Wadley’s mom was pressed for further details on things Brian has done/said and she didn’t have anything else.
 
Do we know what Brian did that would constitute most of the “disgusting actions?” I know several players have said he is part of the problem, but I can’t recall any specific stories about Brian other than the Wadley mask incident. Apparently last night on a radio show Wadley’s mom was pressed for further details on things Brian has done/said and she didn’t have anything else.

What black player did he say he wanted them to get injured and he hated them?
 
Do we know what Brian did that would constitute most of the “disgusting actions?” I know several players have said he is part of the problem, but I can’t recall any specific stories about Brian other than the Wadley mask incident. Apparently last night on a radio show Wadley’s mom was pressed for further details on things Brian has done/said and she didn’t have anything else.
You're actually covering for Brian? And there have been others, like the tattoo story where someone said Brian ridiculed him for his tattoos. He's been brought up the second most out of all of these allegations.
 
You're actually covering for Brian? And there have been others, like the tattoo story where someone said Brian ridiculed him for his tattoos. He's been brought up the second most out of all of these allegations.

Lol the tattoo thing? Come on dude. He told a player his tattoo was stupid. If that’s one of the worst stories that’s out there, then he has nothing to worry about.

Listen, if Brian really is part of the problem, then he needs to go. But LOL at thinking calling a player’s tattoo stupid is some major indiscretion.
 
Lol the tattoo thing? Come on dude. He told a player his tattoo was stupid. If that’s one of the worst stories that’s out there, then he has nothing to worry about.

Listen, if Brian really is part of the problem, then he needs to go. But LOL at treating the tattoo thing as if it is some major indiscretion.
Jesus dude that's not an isolated incident. In so many of these allegations he was brought up as one of the main constituents. You obviously want to break each one down and take each at face value in order to downplay his overall play in this whole thing.
 
As in criminal charges and NCAA violations? Ok, I dont think that will be the case but time will tell.
The Register already brought up that there are most likely going to be legal ramifications in all of this. They broke down almost every single scenario in all of this and each one had Iowa paying a heavy price.
 
The very guys coming forward are overwhelmingly saying KF can fix it and are not calling for him to be replaced.

You actually think its insulting for the players that are making the claims to think that KF can right the ship?

Yeah... KF just wreaks of change....
 
So you only believe them when they say there was racist injustice in the Iowa football program but dont believe they know enough about KF to say he can fix it?

Understood.

I get that you want to watch Iowa football burn but that is quite the double standard you got going on there.

If I did this at my job I would be escorted off campus. You clearly don't get it.
 
Jesus dude that's not an isolated incident. In so many of these allegations he was brought up as one of the main constituents. You obviously want to break each one down and take each at face value in order to downplay his overall play in this whole thing.

No, I just don’t think it’s appropriate to fire a coach - or state as a matter of fact that he is a culpable individual that has engaged in most of the “disgusting actions” - because a couple of former players vaguely tweet out that he is a problem.
 
No, I just don’t think it’s appropriate to fire a coach - or state as a matter of fact that he is a culpable individual that has engaged in most of the “disgusting actions” - because a couple of former players vaguely tweet out that he is a problem.
Kirk himself admitted he's had to have conversations with Brian regarding his behaviors. There's obviously issues with his actions. Kirk then said he believes those are separate actions than some of Doyle's. And I'm assuming he believes both of those actions are separate from the coaches who made fun of Kallenberger, specifically the one who posted his grades.

It's seems pretty clear that no matter whether or not everyone wants to separate these behaviors and actions by these coaches, they all fall under a culture that Kirk Ferentz allowed to happen.
 
The very guys coming forward are overwhelmingly saying KF can fix it and are not calling for him to be replaced.

You actually think its insulting for the players that are making the claims to think that KF can right the ship?

Is this actually true? I certainly haven't followed what all players have been saying this whole time, but I'm curious which players are saying this, and what specifically they are saying.

I'd also say that there's a huge gulf between saying retaining KF is the right move vs. leaving the door open that KF could change and correct the problems. It's a big jump to say "KF won't change and he needs to be fired."

From what I have seen there is largely an absence of definitive statements about firing vs. retaining KF from the players. That lack of a definitive statement plus a few saying it's possible KF could fix it is being twisted by lots of people as overwhelming support to retain KF by those that have spoken out.

I mean, McNutt saying KF didn't necessarily need to be fired, KF was part of a systematic problem but he's encouraged so far by what KF has said to him has been spun as some sort of broad glowing endorsement of KF as THE guy to lead this change.
 
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