What are you talking about? I referenced a particular metric, and you apparently spent time researching an entirely different metric that nobody has ever heard of in an attempt to prove me wrong.
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What are you talking about? I referenced a particular metric, and you apparently spent time researching an entirely different metric that nobody has ever heard of in an attempt to prove me wrong.
That literally is our stand. Fans expect and want Sweet 16 appearances. Just making it to the tournament doesn't cut it for the majority of fans. Not sure why you can't believe that
I mean I don't want Iowa to get good players ever but as long as you beat us or are "better than us" that's all you care about
"The SP+ Ratings are a college football ratings system derived from both play-by-play and drive data from all 800+ of a season's FBS college football games (and 140,000+ plays). The components for SP+ reflect the components of four of what Bill Connelly has deemed the Five Factors of college football: efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. (A fifth factor, turnovers, is informed marginally by sack rates, the only quality-based statistic that has a consistent relationship with turnover margins.)"
That's the definition that website gives for SP+ rankings. You can click specific cell to rank the teams based entirely on that metric.
Well if we're going to break down how bad Iowa State basketball is because we've had 2 out of 3 bad seasons, why can't we set our standard to be Sweet 16 since we've made two in the past 6 years? Yeah pretty dumb huh? lol
I think it is the best metric going right now, but obviously even it has its flaws as I think they still had OSU #1 after the season ended and LSU #2. That doesn't make any sense.
This is not the rating I used nor would use, and as good as some ratings can be, they all have their flaws.
The link you posted earlier is to F+. I have no idea what that is. ESPN hired Connelly in 2019, so the SP+ ratings are hosted only on ESPN now. If you were looking at SP+ ratings on Football Outsiders, they were from 2018. Here is the link to SP+.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...ngs-2019-college-football-season?platform=amp
Both are really good young backs.
Arguing on who is better is just typical CyHawk banter.
Hey, it's not my standard.. As I said, my standard would be getting a solid seed in the NCAA tournament. Literally anything can happen when you get there and I'm not going to throw a great season out the door because App. State shot 85% from the 3 point line.
Fran gets a larger bonus for a conference tournament title than a Sweet 16, so there is some value in that you would think.
No who you were responding to, but I think we should narrow down what "standard" is here. If a Sweet 16 is the standard at ISU, having done that 4 times in 30 years (assuming that was correct), then Iowa's standard in football would obviously be a top 10 finish (5 times in 30 years).
More realistic, I'd say the standard would be 8 wins for Iowa Football. It's expected at this point, over that is a success, and under a disappointment.
Obviously it is probably 8-4 and go to a decent bowl game. With the hope that you can contend for a division title or conference title every now and then.
I didn't say it was the standard always did I? Fred had a ton of success when here. He won conference titles, competed with the best team in the league and took us to sweet 16's. He raised expectations. Understandable though how Hawks wouldn't get that as their standard seems to be just beat ISU