Iowa Football Recruiting

[Statefan10]

I doubt ISU gets to Slovis and knocks him out of the game. You don't have anyone like AJ that can take over a game like he did. Interesting that now you want to disagree with Sagarin, seems like cherry picking yet again.

This is all hypothetical because we did not play USC and we got handled by ND, but USC would've been a far better matchup for Iowa State last year. Iowa didn't need to knock out Slovis to win the game, even though doing so drastically helped their outcome. We have no idea who would've won that game had Slovis not gotten injured and we will never know. Iowa won the game and that's that.

Iowa State's play at the end of the year does not give me confidence they would've been able to beat the Trojans. No doubt we would've matched up better with them than the Irish, but that doesn't mean we would've won. It probably would've been a good game, however a good game doesn't equate to a W.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

To his credit, it will be hard for them to drop off from where they were.

But there’s major improvement needed to be “wild.”

Maybe they can do it.

 

[Legend Hawk]

This is all hypothetical because we did not play USC and we got handled by ND, but USC would've been a far better matchup for Iowa State last year. Iowa didn't need to knock out Slovis to win the game, even though doing so drastically helped their outcome. We have no idea who would've won that game had Slovis not gotten injured and we will never know. Iowa won the game and that's that.

Iowa State's play at the end of the year does not give me confidence they would've been able to beat the Trojans. No doubt we would've matched up better with them than the Irish, but that doesn't mean we would've won. It probably would've been a good game, however a good game doesn't equate to a W.

I agree totally, but then again I'm not completely and totally locked into Sagarin like Twins is. Sagarin says ISU is 7-6 vs Iowa schedule and Iowa is 10-3 vs ISU schedule if they were flipped. It is what it is, and yeah it is all hypotheticals. So basically the Sagarin SOS means nothing as their records stay the same.

 

[Statefan10]

I like ISM a lot as a wide receiver, but let's pump the breaks a bit here as far as Iowa's offense goes. They were 99th in the nation in total offense last year.

 

[CyTwins]

I doubt ISU gets to Slovis and knocks him out of the game. You don't have anyone like AJ that can take over a game like he did. Interesting that now you want to disagree with Sagarin, seems like cherry picking yet again.

Pick em. Iowa State loses if Slovis plays. Iowa State wins if he doesn't. Hell Iowa would have lost if he didn't get hurt

 

[CyTwins]

99th in total defense last year with an NFL QB. Lol dangerous!

 

[Legend Hawk]

To his credit, it will be hard for them to drop off from where they were.

But there’s major improvement needed to be “wild.”

Maybe they can do it.

I think you can see the changes Brian is making are starting to pay off. Iowa has explosive playmakers all over the field now. You got Goodson, Smith, Smith Marsette, and Tracy that all can make a big play at any time.

 

[Statefan10]

I agree totally, but then again I'm not completely and totally locked into Sagarin like Twins is. Sagarin says ISU is 7-6 vs Iowa schedule and Iowa is 10-3 vs ISU schedule if they were flipped. It is what it is, and yeah it is all hypotheticals.

Yeah we really do not know, nor will we ever know what our records would've been like had we played each other's schedule. Iowa State could've been a 10 win team last year with our own schedule but at the same time could've been a 5 win team. We were as good as our record showed.

 

[CyTwins]

Iowa has explosive playmakers all over the field now. You got Goodson, Smith, Smith Marsette, and Tracy that all can make a big play at any time.

Literally every P5 has players as good as those guys lol

 

[Legend Hawk]

Pick em. Iowa State loses if Slovis plays. Iowa State wins if he doesn't. Hell Iowa would have lost if he didn't get hurt

So both disagreeing and parsing Sagarins now. Weird that you would try to jerry rig the metric like this.

Iowa is 10-3 with ISU schedule and ISU is 7-6 with Iowa's schedule. That is what Sagarin says.

 

[TheBear]

99th in total defense last year with an NFL QB. Lol dangerous!

10 wins.

 

[Legend Hawk]

Yeah we really do not know, nor will we ever know what our records would've been like had we played each other's schedule. Iowa State could've been a 10 win team last year with our own schedule but at the same time could've been a 5 win team. We were as good as our record showed.

Exactly, just pointing out how stupid Twins Sagarin SOS argument is. The exact same Sagarin data also tells us that Iowa is 10-3 with ISU schedule and ISU is 7-6 with Iowa's schedule. So like you said, you are what your record says you are.

Heck I don't even believe this Sagarin garbage, but Twins sure does, so that is the reason I'm using it.

 

[TheBear]

So both disagreeing and parsing Sagarins now. Weird that you would try to jerry rig the metric like this.

Iowa is 10-3 with ISU schedule and ISU is 7-6 with Iowa's schedule. That is what Sagarin says.

What else can CyTwins do give up on his Sagarin SOS myth?

Never.

 

[Legend Hawk]

Literally every P5 has players as good as those guys lol

Vs USC Smith Marsette was the most dangerous player of all the players on the field as the announcers said. He proved that on the field scoring 3 times in 3 different ways.

 

[CyTwins]

Vs USC Smith Marsette was the most dangerous player of all the players on the field as the announcers said. He proved that on the field scoring 3 times in 3 different ways.

How was Goodson vs USC?

 

[Legend Hawk]

What else can CyTwins do give up on his Sagarin SOS myth?

Never.

Yeah when Sagarin falls apart notice how quickly he will start questioning and trying to parse the data. Before now Sagarin was absolute gospel with no other metric to be even looked at (except now he wants an extra win vs USC when the Sagarin data says it is a loss).

 

[TheBear]

Exactly, just pointing out how stupid Twins Sagarin SOS argument is. The exact same Sagarin data also tells us that Iowa is 10-3 with ISU schedule and ISU is 7-6 with Iowa's schedule. So like you said, you are what your record says you are.

Heck I don't even believe this Sagarin garbage, but Twins sure does, so that is the reason I'm using it.

Better watch out, CyTwins gets really annoyed when you trash one of his beloved myths. If you keep this up he will simply put you on his ignore list. This way he can continue posting away in his alternative reality and be happy as a clam.

 

[Legend Hawk]

How was Goodson vs USC?

Like every other player on that field vs USC, below Smith Marsette. With so many explosive pieces like Smith said it could be anyone who takes over and Smith Marsette's day was vs USC, but you can't expect that every game.

 

[CyTwins]

Like every other player on that field vs USC, below Smith Marsette. With so many explosive pieces like Smith said it could be anyone who takes over and Smith Marsette's day was vs USC, but you can't expect that every game.

So Goodson wasn't bad against USC?

 

[TheBear]

How was Goodson vs USC?

Iowa was awesome against USC a total team effort. If I were CyTwins I would try and argue USC was better in certain positions as well. When you get dominated in the game it is best to pick and choose where you think USC May have been better.