Makale Foreman Grad Transfer

The premium lounge is a very good investment for those of you that can afford it. I know not everyone can, but the recruiting information and insight that CW has been able to provide has been well worth the monetary commitment.

Is there less feces flinging, too? It may be time to take the plunge.
 
I have been a long time member of these boards, and recently "bit the bullet" of paying for premium access. I do still spend time on the free boards which have more total activity on posts, but especially on recruiting news, tend to find the pay board worth the money so far. If you have been considering it, I think you will find it a good choice. Before you ask, no I am not a paid endorsement!
 
I have been a long time member of these boards, and recently "bit the bullet" of paying for premium access. I do still spend time on the free boards which have more total activity on posts, but especially on recruiting news, tend to find the pay board worth the money so far. If you have been considering it, I think you will find it a good choice. Before you ask, no I am not a paid endorsement!
Plus it helps ensure CF stays afloat. I can’t imagine where I could get my fill of Cyclone news without this site.
 
Neither of them received much? Niang was awarded as the top PF in the nation with the Karl Malone award and was a consensus 2nd team AA his senior year and was a 3rd team AA his Junior year.

Good points. Let me share one thing about Monté, though.

Here are the BT results for points about replacement for Monté's junior year...

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Monté was #13. Georges was #10, and the awards you mention roughly correspond with the level of recognition that his number would deserve for #31.

Here is the same table for the next season...

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Monté was #5 in the nation. His score (6.1) was higher than Georges the previous year (5.7). Monté had probably the most productive and efficient season in this century of Iowa State basketball, but he got nothing for national awards.

He got, in short, screwed. I blame four things...

(1.) Frank Mason sucked up all the attention for the B12 but not without reason. In any other year, Monté wins CPOTY and more national awards.

(2.) The team itself was not quite consistently good enough throughout the year to warrant the attention, so it screwed Man-Man in the end.

(3.) We were still thought of as the Georges Niang show at that point, even if Monté might have been the superior player on the whole, so he never really came out from under that shadow even as he had an incredible senior year.

(4.) He never had a "Heisman moment." D-Jax hit the biggest shot of the year, after all.
 
I appreciate the leakers on the main board, but CW is kicking their butt in premium.

All, I get the point of the premium boards and the need to fund CF. However, I hope CW and the crew are able to tread that fine line carefully. For those of us who came to CF several years ago when Jeremy started it, we can remember how CF really got its start and became the juggernaut that it is now. Sites like Cyclone Report and Cyclone Nation were moving further and further towards premium to the point that the free boards died. It became a situation where premium members would go on the free boards simply to pull the 'I know something you don't know' crap. Not saying that is happening here now, but posts like the one quoted are certainly a beginning.

Again, I love CF and hope that the premium / free can be navigated better than other sites have done it because it is a great community of Cyclone fans.

I honestly thought that when CW started the premium it was going to be additional podcast content, event invitations and gear. Not a place solely to share the nuggets - in fact I thought that was explicitly stated would not change. This isn't a have or have not comment, but there are folks who either can't, or can't justify, the additional $ per month.
 
All, I get the point of the premium boards and the need to fund CF. However, I hope CW and the crew are able to tread that fine line carefully. For those of us who came to CF several years ago when Jeremy started it, we can remember how CF really got its start and became the juggernaut that it is now. Sites like Cyclone Report and Cyclone Nation were moving further and further towards premium to the point that the free boards died. It became a situation where premium members would go on the free boards simply to pull the 'I know something you don't know' crap. Not saying that is happening here now, but posts like the one quoted are certainly a beginning.

Again, I love CF and hope that the premium / free can be navigated better than other sites have done it because it is a great community of Cyclone fans.

I honestly thought that when CW started the premium it was going to be additional podcast content, event invitations and gear. Not a place solely to share the nuggets - in fact I thought that was explicitly stated would not change. This isn't a have or have not comment, but there are folks who either can't, or can't justify, the additional $ per month.

This might be a larger conversation to have about the boards, but I think the era of having high-quality and tightly-tailored content available for free on the Internet is coming to a close. I am not sure the "passive income" from online advertisements and more active advertising revenues from local sponsors is going to be able to support something like Cyclone Fanatic, which products great and focused content (which comes at a price to produce) narrowed tailored for an audience of Iowa State superfans. Just because a business model worked throughout the 2010s does not mean it will work throughout the 2020s, and so I think some things about that original philosophy are going to have to change.

Unless you are producing low-quality content at huge volumes (and think all those obnoxious "listicle" click-bait shops), then you need more money and dependable revenue streams to stay alive and to keep paying talent. The COVID pandemic is only going to make it more evident than we cannot keep expecting high-quality content available without a price. Most major media publications are starting to put things behind paywalls (e.g., all the streaming services, and I pay for a Washington Post subscription and for a few print magazines on other niche interests, etc.), and that trend is going to continue.

I do not want to put any words in the staff or ownership's mouths, but I would imagine CF is going to become more and more of a paid product from here on out. I do not mind that and do not judge those who might bemoan the end of the "content is free" ethos that started this place, but I am not sure it is viable as a business model in 2020+.
 
I'm going to jump in with everyone else supporting the premium board.
I had a subscription with 247 and was skeptical of switching over after Alex left.
I made the switch today.
If you have been asking yourself if it is worth it... it is.
I would expect it to only get better as more "informed" posters sign up and help contribute to the information Chris provides.
 

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