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You gotta extend offers to guys who are good enough to play for you. I was never thrilled with Pittman like I am with Brown, and obviously the ISU coaches feel the same way.

Purdy had an offer to play at BAMA. That’s because Saban thought he was good enough to compete for a job at BAMA. However, you best believe Saban didn’t bat an eye when he heard he missed out on a 3 star QB when Tua is slinging the rock to win a Natty.

Curious what you don’t like about Pittman, other than the obvious (he committed to Iowa). He’s explosive and has a quick first step and violent hands. Even 247 says the only question with Pittman is whether he can gain enough weight, but that shouldn’t be a problem with Iowa’s strength and conditioning program.
 
It's not my gospel. But whatever helps you sleep at night bud.

So when you are claiming isu played such a tough schedule what are you using to come to that conclusion? I can only find one SOS ranking that has isu in the top 5 and that is Sagarin.

Or is the new clone fan argument that Sagarin, which uses their rankings to determine SOS, can only be used for SOS and nothing else? Yep that is a logical argument form a clone fan.
 
We were a doormat in college football for years and now we have a coach that has recruits want to come to Ames, we have been to 3 good bowl games in a row, and have been in and out of the top-25 the last 3 years. Taking into context our history.. yeah, CMC is pretty awesome and you trying to diminish that is stupid.

And sure, we would absolutely love to beat Iowa, but Iowa hasn't exactly been a terrible team since Campbell has been here. They've been very solid and we've come incredibly close a few times. Quit acting like you're blowing Iowa State out of the water. Iowa's been winning by a thread and who knows, this may be the year where we finally pull through. I sure hope so because maybe it'll cause some of the unbearable Iowa fans on an Iowa State website to hang up the keyboard.

You are probably the best poster on this whole site, but I wouldn't call the bowl games you have been to good. One was good the other two were either below average or mediocre. But your point still stands, CMC has done a hell of a job thus far.
 
I am not diminishing anything. I get that because of isu’s history CMC is seen as the savior. Maybe clone fans should wait to run smack against Iowa until he actually makes isu better than Iowa. I don’t get the fascination from clone fans to claim superiority when nothing close to it actually exists.
You're sort of diminishing CMC and Iowa State. We're rivals, it's what we do. I will always smack talk Iowa fans because they're the rival of my favorite team, just like you will probably always smack talk Iowa State fans. Most of all of this is all fun and in this current climate as far as the quarantine goes, it's actually providing me and probably others with a much needed get away.

I do agree with you that some Iowa State fans need to drop the theory that we are superior to Iowa. We're just not and I don't care if I receive down votes for saying that. We have not been better than Iowa overall since CMC has gotten here. You could make a small case that ISU might've had a better year than Iowa one single year in 2018, but even that year we lost to Iowa which hurts that argument. We are not however, light year's away from Iowa as far as being a quality football program goes. Before Campbell took over we were, even if Paul Roads and Chizik beat Iowa. We would beat Iowa with 3 win teams or even a 1 win team. Campbell has exponentially increased the quality of the program, but Iowa's program hasn't taken one step back either.
 
You are probably the best poster on this whole site, but I wouldn't call the bowl games you have been to good. One was good the other two were either below average or mediocre. But your point still stands, CMC has done a hell of a job thus far.
Either the Camping or Alamo is below average/mediocre? That's interesting.
 
You are probably the best poster on this whole site, but I wouldn't call the bowl games you have been to good. One was good the other two were either below average or mediocre. But your point still stands, CMC has done a hell of a job thus far.
Bowl games are very very weird in the fact that the Liberty Bowl we played in 2017 was against a 10-2 ranked Memphis team, who only lost to UCF 2x that year. That's a good bowl game and a no doubt tough one considering we literally played at their home field.

Last year we actually probably didn't deserve to play Notre Dame, but our reputation of traveling helped us and the bowl voters liked the matchup Purdy brought. Playing #12 Notre Dame isn't a poor bowl game either.

Neither are great bowl games, but in context, they're good.
 
You are probably the best poster on this whole site, but I wouldn't call the bowl games you have been to good. One was good the other two were either below average or mediocre. But your point still stands, CMC has done a hell of a job thus far.

I would be curious to hear your rankings of “good” bowl games. ISU’s lowest rated bowl opponent under Campbell was ranked as high as the highest rated team Iowa has played in a bowl since the Rose Bowl.
 
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Either the Camping or Alamo is below average/mediocre? That's interesting.

I remember John Miller on a Mediacom show saying how he thought the Alamo was the best bowl out there except the Rose bowl, he placed it above the Orange bowl also.
 
Bowl games are very very weird in the fact that the Liberty Bowl we played in 2017 was against a 10-2 ranked Memphis team, who only lost to UCF 2x that year. That's a good bowl game and a no doubt tough one considering we literally played at their home field.

Last year we actually probably didn't deserve to play Notre Dame, but our reputation of traveling helped us and the bowl voters liked the matchup Purdy brought. Playing #12 Notre Dame isn't a poor bowl game either.

Neither are great bowl games, but in context, they're good.

Alamo Bowl is good. The other two are either mediocre or below average imo. Same goes for Iowa. The Music City bowl and Pinstripe Bowl are below average to me. But I guess it is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to bowl game quality.
 
So when you are claiming isu played such a tough schedule what are you using to come to that conclusion? I can only find one SOS ranking that has isu in the top 5 and that is Sagarin.

Or is the new clone fan argument that Sagarin, which uses their rankings to determine SOS, can only be used for SOS and nothing else? Yep that is a logical argument form a clone fan.
There are flaws in any system. I'm not going to look it up, but I'm sure Sargarin would call Minnesota a "good win". They were not good. But SOS can get inflated when you pillow fight each other in a weak division. I think any unbiased legitimate football fan would say that the Big 12 was much more difficult than the Big 10 West last year.
 
There are flaws in any system. I'm not going to look it up, but I'm sure Sargarin would call Minnesota a "good win". They were not good. But SOS can get inflated when you pillow fight each other in a weak division. I think any unbiased legitimate football fan would say that the Big 12 was much more difficult than the Big 10 West last year.

I would say the Big 10 West and the Big 12 were very similar last year. Both had three ranked teams with the Big 10 West having three in the top 15. Big 12 had 6/10 make a bowl and the Big 10 West had 4/7 make a bowl. Very similar last year.
 
I would say the Big 10 West and the Big 12 were very similar last year. Both had three ranked teams with the Big 10 West having three in the top 15. Big 12 had 6/10 make a bowl and the Big 10 West had 4/7 make a bowl. Very similar last year.

The Big 12 champion didn’t lose to a team with a losing record like the Big 10 West champ did.
 
Alamo Bowl is good. The other two are either mediocre or below average imo. Same goes for Iowa. The Music City bowl and Pinstripe Bowl are below average to me. But I guess it is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to bowl game quality.
I mean neither the Camping World or the Liberty Bowl are historic bowls by any means and they certainly don't jump off the page, but in both of those games Iowa State played good teams, one of them being very good in Notre Dame. The last 3 bowl games, the teams we played had combined records of 30-6. Not bad as far as quality of opponent goes.

If we were playing a 6-6 Minnesota in the Liberty Bowl or a 7-5 Vanderbilt in the Camping World Bowl, I would agree with you that those are not good bowl games. In the context of who we were playing though, those are 3 good bowl games against 3 good opponents.
 
I mean neither the Camping World or the Liberty Bowl are historic bowls by any means and they certainly don't jump off the page, but in both of those games Iowa State played good teams, one of them being very good in Notre Dame. The last 3 bowl games, the teams we played had combined records of 30-6. Not bad as far as quality of opponent goes.

If we were playing a 6-6 Minnesota in the Liberty Bowl or a 7-5 Vanderbilt in the Camping World Bowl, I would agree with you that those are not good bowl games. In the context of who we were playing though, those are 3 good bowl games against 3 good opponents.

Ask ND if it was a good bowl game and let me know what the answers would be?
 

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