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No, I’d honestly view it as she gambled / guessed and ended up coming out on the right side of things.

If you make a stupid bet in black jack, even when the book tells you otherwise, and win, I’m not going to praise you and say you were right.

I’d rather be wrong and error on the side of caution than not take precautions and it resulting in a hospital catastrophe that could possibly lead to more deaths that could’ve been prevented from using models that 45 other states currently have in place.
You’re assuming it’s a completely uninformed decision. It’s not.
 
There's also no reason whatsoever to not cancel school for the remainder of this year as well right now.

Why even pretend that you think kids will be back in school this year? Nobody in their right mind believes that. Opening schools back up would be one of the worst things we could do this spring. We'd all but guarantee that this virus comes back with another strong peak again.
I highly doubt they go back to school but I also have not been able to predict what Reynolds is going to do at all. Who knows she might allow each school to make decisions as she did before.
 
You’re assuming it’s a completely uninformed decision. It’s not.
It’s obviously not an uninformed decision. I think the people she has around her are helping out with this decision and I don’t think they’re doing a great job either. It ultimately comes down to her though.
 
no..do you?


Not sure, was curious because I checked on the states doing it better than us, Virginia, Maryland, Kansas, and Ohio. Maryland has done about 10% more per capita testing than us, Maryland and Kansas are about half of the per capita testing as us and Ohio doesn't say how many tests they have performed on their site. I just know that Reynolds was getting a lot of flack for not testing enough, but here people want us to be like these other states and that must mean they feel we are testing enough or too many. Can't have it both ways.
 
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Yes. Whether or not it would have made a difference. If it doesn't, will the adamant SIPers admit Reynolds played things correctly?

Imagine being one of the original "it's no worse than the flu" club and still believing on March 31st that you have the standing to question anyone else's concern over whether this has been handled properly.
 
We don't know if that's going to happen or not though.

If it does, should there have been more of a directive?

Yes. Whether or not it would have made a difference. If it doesn't, will the adamant SIPers admit Reynolds played things correctly?

No, I’d honestly view it as she gambled / guessed and ended up coming out on the right side of things.

If you make a stupid bet in black jack, even when the book tells you otherwise, and win, I’m not going to praise you and say you were right.

I’d rather be wrong and error on the side of caution than not take precautions and it resulting in a hospital catastrophe that could possibly lead to more deaths that could’ve been prevented from using models that 45 other states currently have in place.
Got my answer.
 
The state that appears to have gotten a handle on their cases is Minnesota, but nobody has mentioned them. People mentioned states with more per capita deaths and hospitalizations than us.
 
The state that appears to have gotten a handle on their cases is Minnesota, but nobody has mentioned them. People mentioned states with more per capita deaths and hospitalizations than us.
And Minnesota issued a stay at home order when they had 1 death and half as many cases as we currently do right now
 
And Minnesota issued a stay at home order when they had 1 death and half as many cases as we currently do right now


So why wouldn't you guys mention them, it is starting to seem like you guys care more about politics right now than if the right decisions are being made.

I checked on Ohio, they have 2.5X the per capita amount of people hospitalized for corona and over 2X the amount of per capita deaths from this, but we are told they are a model to uphold.

When asked if you would give credit to Reynolds if everything turned out o.k. you said no because you feel she is guessing at things.

The other states that you guys mentioned are testing at a way lower rate than Iowa, but you chastised Reynolds earlier in this thread for not enough tests being done, but you think Virginia and Kansas are great, even Maryland is only about 10% per capita higher than us.

If you want to hate her decisions due to her political affiliation, just say that because that is what it appears you are doing.
 
So why wouldn't you guys mention them, it is starting to seem like you guys care more about politics right now than if the right decisions are being made.

I checked on Ohio, they have 2.5X the per capita amount of people hospitalized for corona and over 2X the amount of per capita deaths from this, but we are told they are a model to uphold.

When asked if you would give credit to Reynolds if everything turned out o.k. you said no because you feel she is guessing at things.

The other states that you guys mentioned are testing at a way lower rate than Iowa, but you chastised Reynolds earlier in this thread for not enough tests being done, but you think Virginia and Kansas are great, even Maryland is only about 10% per capita higher than us.

If you want to hate her decisions due to her political affiliation, just say that because that is what it appears you are doing.

There are people that are criticizing Reynolds due to her political affiliation. There are also people defending her due to her political affiliation. Leaving it at that.
 
So why wouldn't you guys mention them, it is starting to seem like you guys care more about politics right now than if the right decisions are being made.

I checked on Ohio, they have 2.5X the per capita amount of people hospitalized for corona and over 2X the amount of per capita deaths from this, but we are told they are a model to uphold.

When asked if you would give credit to Reynolds if everything turned out o.k. you said no because you feel she is guessing at things.

The other states that you guys mentioned are testing at a way lower rate than Iowa, but you chastised Reynolds earlier in this thread for not enough tests being done, but you think Virginia and Kansas are great, even Maryland is only about 10% per capita higher than us.

If you want to hate her decisions due to her political affiliation, just say that because that is what it appears you are doing.

Ohio has a Republican governor, just like Reynolds. The reason why everyone thinks he has done a good job is he was proactive and listened to the scientists. Reynolds ******** about staying home if you feel sick wouldn't fly with DeWine.
 
Well, first no state is doing enough testing. Not one of them. There haven't been enough tests and I still don't think there are enough tests. When honest people look back at this mess, the lack of testing, especially early testing is what is going to cause the problems.

I said Ohio is a good option because that governor shut things down tight and listened to scientists and doctors and not our idiot president.


Didn't he issue that Stay at Home order yesterday?
 
There are people that are criticizing Reynolds due to her political affiliation. There are also people defending her due to her political affiliation. Leaving it at that.


Oh, I agree with that. These are times when you need to set that crap aside and look at the facts and information and go with that. Seems like a big form over function argument in here. I question at times why I even read many of these posts and respond.
 
And Minnesota issued a stay at home order when they had 1 death and half as many cases as we currently do right now
The first death in Minnesota was 3/19. This: https://mn.gov/deed/newscenter/covid/business-exemptions/
was issued by their governor on 3/25. Read through it. It’s essentially equal to what we’re doing. Not sure where you’re getting your information. Mine is from their state dept of health website.
 
When people throw insults out you can tell they are working on emotion and not facts.

why do you think Kim has done a better job?


And how do you explain her factually incorrect assertion for several days that you only needed to stay home if you felt sick?

As I’ve said several times, I don’t think she’s been that bad. But DeWine has been clearly better. I could name some other Dems that I think have been better, but to keep it non political I’m sticking with DeWine.
 
Oh, I agree with that. These are times when you need to set that crap aside and look at the facts and information and go with that. Seems like a big form over function argument in here. I question at times why I even read many of these posts and respond.

Exactly and all the facts and info are pointing to sip.
 
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