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dmclone said:
So 7.5 million people in the U.S. are positive?
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With how fast it has spread and, New York the epicenter, California, Florida and Lousiana cases sky rocketing, that number is not that hard to attain.
Of course, with the hugely increase in testing the last week, that ratio should start to be lowered significantly.

Just look at Iowa though, how many people have been told "you probably have it but just stay home, were not going to test you."
 
Al_4_State said:
Perhaps, but so far it's been in line with Iowa's needs. I realize why some want to get more aggressive now, but the next level isn't much more than where we're currently at, and our case growth has been steady vs. exponential. Obviously we aren't testing as many people as we should, but you can extrapolate things from the testing we're doing.
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Disagree - it sure looks like an exponential curve. It's just that the numbers are small right now, so when you get a daily update you just think "oh, it's only a few more cases, it's fine." But it's increasing by a constant percentage, not a constant value, so it is indeed exponential. Once the numbers get bigger, it becomes more apparent. This is one of those things you really need a graph to see.

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https://www.kimt.com/content/news/Coronavirus-A-timeline-in-Minnesota-and-Iowa-568898111.html
 
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Gunnerclone said:
I would argue they’ve had to be more reactive and using them as a dipstick to not be proactive is pretty dumb. That is of course if doing everything to limit loss of life is the goal. Maybe it’s not.
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I think it’s also silly to say Iowa hasn’t been proactive enough. Plenty of businesses and schools shut down before the cases really even hit Iowa. Also believing that every hospital in the entire country should already be properly equipped for this with only a couple months of warning and time to prepare probably isn’t realistic. I know some think it’s just easy for everything to happen in the now.
 
NorthCyd said:
OPEC tried to get Russia to mutually agree to decrease production of oil to keep prices up during the epidemic. Russia said no. OPEC responded by increasing production to drive the price of oil way down in hopes of putting pressure on Russia and other oil producers around the world. That's why gas is so crazy cheap right now. It's good for the prices at the pump but is not good for the world economy overall.
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I guess I have never understood the "It's good for the prices at the pump but is not good for the world economy overall." line of thought.
Cheaper energy costs help shipping companies, people going to jobs and everyone else, only person being hurt or the oil and gas companies. Most gas retailors make very little profit on each gallon sold. So how is this hurting the world economy?

No one ever said, that low prices for Corn and Soybeans hurts the World Economy, just the opposite, screw the farmer, but man, if Exxon, and Shell are hurt we are all in trouble. What a strange world we live in.
 
dmclone said:
Sweet. With it doubling every few days, everyone in the country will have it in a couple of weeks.
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It honestly wouldn't be surprising. The fortunate thing is that such a tiny percentage of people require hospitalization.
 
dmclone said:
Sweet. With it doubling every few days, everyone in the country will have it in a couple of weeks.
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The original projections were that if there were no measures put into place, i.e. social distancing, lock downs, etc., 80% of the US population would have had it by May.
 
SEIOWA CLONE said:
I guess I have never understood the "It's good for the prices at the pump but is not good for the world economy overall." line of thought.
Cheaper energy costs help shipping companies, people going to jobs and everyone else, only person being hurt or the oil and gas companies. Most gas retailors make very little profit on each gallon sold. So how is this hurting the world economy?

No one ever said, that low prices for Corn and Soybeans hurts the World Economy, just the opposite, screw the farmer, but man, if Exxon, and Shell are hurt we are all in trouble. What a strange world we live in.
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Lol farmers and the oil and gas lobby strutting over which side hurting causes the rest of us the most pain...both of these industries are leeches on all of us.
 
jdcyclone19 said:
With how fast it has spread and, New York the epicenter, California, Florida and Lousiana cases sky rocketing, that number is not that hard to attain.
Of course, with the hugely increase in testing the last week, that ratio should start to be lowered significantly.

Just look at Iowa though, how many people have been told "you probably have it but just stay home, were not going to test you."
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How many?
 
awd4cy said:
I think it’s also silly to say Iowa hasn’t been proactive enough. Plenty of businesses and schools shut down before the cases really even hit Iowa. Also believing that every hospital in the entire country should already be properly equipped for this with only a couple months of warning and time to prepare probably isn’t realistic. I know some think it’s just easy for everything to happen in the now.
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We don't know this.

If tests are taking a weekish for results, it's very likely all of these cases that are popping up were spread well before even the smallest shutdowns were occurring.
 
besserheimerphat said:
Disagree - it sure looks like an exponential curve. It's just that the numbers are small right now, so when you get a daily update you just think "oh, it's only a few more cases, it's fine." But it's increasing by a constant percentage, not a constant value, so it is indeed exponential. Once the numbers get bigger, it becomes more apparent. This is one of those things you really need a graph to see.

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https://www.kimt.com/content/news/Coronavirus-A-timeline-in-Minnesota-and-Iowa-568898111.html
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With increased testing, of course the # of positive results will go up. The real worry is the % of hospital capacity.
 
madguy30 said:
We don't know this.

If tests are taking a weekish for results, it's very likely all of these cases that are popping up were spread well before even the smallest shutdowns were occurring.
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Yes. We didn't shut down these businesses until last Tuesday... So before that, everyone was still congregating.
 
madguy30 said:
I'm not in Iowa, but I was one on March 16. There's no way there wasn't a whole bunch more.
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My sister and BIL were told this. After BIL's second trip to the doctor, he was tested yesterday. Obviously no need to test my sister.
 
ClonesTwenty1 said:
But I think we are well aware there are tons more non tested positive people out there around us. It would not surprise me if the actual cases are in the thousands here, but they just have not been tested yet.
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jdcyclone19 said:
The published stat I've seen is that for every 1 positive test, there is 100 positive that haven't been tested.
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Stewo said:
It honestly wouldn't be surprising. The fortunate thing is that such a tiny percentage of people require hospitalization.
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We aren't "well aware"....that is an assumption based on some level of logic and reason. I certainly wouldn't call the 1 in 100 guess a stat......it's a guess with some hope attached.

The tiny percentage is also based on many assumptions.....which is fine, but don't treat them as facts.
 
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