Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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In reality I think they will probably always take them, but they have to have some kind of deadline to clean up the books.
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They are listed under Public Works
https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure-workforce
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Yes. I think they would fall under Public Works item 3 - "Workers such as plumbers, electricians, exterminators, and other service providers who provide services that are necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences"
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I can't speak to all Iowa hospitals, but I know that since the first of the year, the hospital I work for has been averaging above 90% full. They've tried to scale that back in the last two weeks, to prepare for the surge, as well as getting more beds available, so that may contribute to lower capacity numbers right now.
Yeah I believe essentially they're telling the public they don't believe this is serious enough to shut down non-essential businesses at this time. They don't believe it's going to get as bad here as it has in other states, while in reality it is. We may not have the population of states like NY or CA but our hospitalization rates are nearly identical, which means this virus is just as serious as it is in places like those.
I'm wondering if the first recorded death from yesterday evening with another spike in cases / hospitalization will change their minds.
You say our hospitalization rates are the same but we’ve also not been testing as extensively. That means we are likely only testing more extreme cases so ours should go down as we begin to have the ability to test more.
Mayor of Iowa City and the Mayor of Des Moines I believe, so I worded it incorrectly. I read yesterday that the Cedar Rapids Mayor and the Dubuque Mayor or taking a similar stance with them. From what I learned yesterday, they do have the power to shut down their county if they deem necessary, however they don't think it will send a powerful enough message to the people. They would rather Governor Reynolds make that call so people will take that stay at home mandate more seriously.
Sooner or later though, these mayors are going to have to stand their ground and make a decision, which I believe in those areas would be the correct one to make. If Governor Reynolds doesn't think this is serious enough at this point to shut down the entire state, even though a third of the counties in Iowa have a case, then these other people that have power need to act in their city's / county's best interest.
Lots of other states are like us in that category though. They have a higher population, which leads to more critically ill people, leading to more of a percentage hospitalized. If the entire nation would be able to test extremely well, you'd probably still be seeing similar hospitalization rates across the board.
They are going off metrics and numbers, she isnt just going off her gut feeling. Dont say she isnt taking it seriously.
The naysayers can go play in traffic because there are already enough data points that show how bad things could have gotten.
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I'm never said she wasn't taking it seriously. I said she does not believe at this point in time, the crisis in Iowa is serious enough to the point where she must implement a shelter in place order. And I'm not exactly sure if they're looking at future metrics or current metrics, because future metrics predict Iowa to not do so well right now. We're behind on testing and receiving results, so the current numbers we have are not an indicator of how well we are actually doing.
She's obviously in an incredibly tough position and I wouldn't wish that job on any of us. I just think what's going to end up happening is a state shutdown similar to surrounding states, and many people are going to wish it came sooner, that's all.
The Y2K event was similar. As someone in IT, I can unequivocally say that had everyone not put in the time they did to correct the issue, there would have been major repercussions to normal daily life. But because most people never saw all that work, they dismissed the threat entirely.
Part of the reason for this is Iowa is already a C-hair away from shelter in place.
All that shelter in place will do at this point is close malls, which is a good and necessary step, but we're 90% of the way there as it is.
Our resources are probably better directed at ramping up testing, and getting supplies to our hospitals.
Wouldn't places with higher populations also be expected to have a higher number of hospital beds and resources as well?
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