Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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Yes Italy's elderly population (65+) makes up 22% of their 60,461,826 total population. That's 13,301,601.
The United States elderly population makes up 16% of our total population. The problem with that is our total population is 329,227,746. 16% of that is 51,055,052.
So when people are saying we shouldn't be worried because Italy's elderly makes up around almost a quarter of their population, they're not taking into account that we actually have almost 4x as many elderly citizens living here than they do.
Cedar Rapids likely to see confirmed case(s) soon.
https://krna.com/iowa-city-karaoke-dj-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
https://krna.com/iowa-city-karaoke-dj-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
Italy is more densely populated than the US.
I'm encouraged by the steps that state governments seem to be taking. I've been very worried about the next 10 days (tracking the US compared to Italy). We're going to find out if these steps were too little too late.
Does that really matter? They're pretty much the same county with commuters and Kirkwooders going out in IC.
True but given that it happened at Longbranch, anyone at that event could theoretically get tested because they can claim direct contact with a confirmed case. Given that, I would expect to hear from someone else who was there.
Your math isn’t exactly right. I don’t know what the actual numbers are but we should be asking more in respect to their ICU beds too. We have more raw numbers of old people but I’d imagine we have higher numbers of beds due to our overall population being higher too.
I am honestly surprised it is taking this long to get a "confirmed" case here in Linn county. I know of at least a couple that were likely to be it but couldn't get tested or live with people that were tested positive.
My statement was more of a data one. Especially since it was confirmed on Sunday evening I am sure it is already in the numbers and counted in Johnson county.
No stats in front of me but I remember reading we have fewer hospital beds per capita than Italy. Would imagine that carries through for icu and vents.
I'm pretty sure we have a higher number of ICU beds per capita than Italy. I don't know the exact numbers though. South Korea I think was known to have an unusually high number of beds compared to most countries as well which likely helped their response.
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A quick google search provided this article in Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...are-beds-per-capita-infographic/#60826fe87f86
If it is accurate, we are better prepared than I would have thought. I think the key thing is number of ventilators available, not necessarily just ICU beds though, since that is basically the treatment being used.
I've read that too. Clearly, we need to ramp that capacity up quickly, and also eliminate the BS certificates of need that act as a barrier to expansion (and competition).
Ya it would be shocking to me if Italy had more ICU beds than the US with all they’ve gone through since 2008. I don’t think they could even say they’ve recovered halfway from that crisis.
Do these beds need the supplies with them?
Are there people that have been in the hospital, that need some form of bed and care, but could stay at a place like a hotel or something?
(I'm assuming there wouldn't be enough direct care available for that but just a thought).
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