Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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I went out yesterday to Zanzibar to pick up some coffee beans and every place I drove by looked to have a normal crowd. While driving home I realized that just going out because I was bored was idiotic. My employer is telling us to work from home and my wife can work from home anytime. I’m staying indoors for the next 5 days and reassessing.
Listened to a pod yesterday that was saying some health professionals don’t want schools closed because then it makes it very hard for healthcare professionals to go to work.
I've heard this too which makes sense. It'll be interesting where they set that fine line of what needs to be shutdown while freeing up essential resources such as hospitals, power, water, food supply chain.
I saw a tweet or a news story that said some hospital CEOs are working on solutions for child care so that is not a barrier for employees to work - things like carving out space for on-site child care or using a closed school near a hospital specifically for this purpose.
I'm not optimistic this is happening in Iowa, but that's the type of creative thinking we're going to need because I can't imagine keeping schools open will help.
The testing has been limited, as everyone should be expecting. They had issues with the first tests that they developed giving 30+% false positives, so that also causes a delay, but to expect there to be 200 million test kits available in a month is unrealistic. This is going to spread, there is no doubt about it, but we can not shut down the world to stop it either. Wash your hands and stay away from people the best you can.
Also having a plan back in January. I know it's 'well, can't do anything about it now' but geez there's been some total misses on this including basically denying it was happening.
So the health care people working on the sick are going to have all their kids in one place? That seems like the worst “social distancing” plan possible.
So does sending them all to sit in really close quarters with even more kids and people in general in a classroom/cafeteria.
Lose lose.
Or maybe it's the best one, to have kids who are at higher risk of having basically spending all their time either at home or in one place with others at high risk.
Regardless, the alternative is sending them to school and that would definitely seem worse.
I would presume that the other variable in the grouping of kids, health industry childcaring kids, still having schools, is that there has not been a case in a person under 20 in the US yet I believe and in the other countries, the rate has been extremely low when compared to the other populations. By keeping them together you do corral them basically and help to keep them away from others.
Again, we don't know that there hasn't been a case in kids. The testing just isn't there.
I saw a graph from South Korea and they had a LOT more 20-29 year olds testing positive than other countries because they are testing everyone and no one else is.
I don't know that closing the schools is the right move, but we are being ignorant if we say that kids aren't getting this. They very well could be and not have serious symptoms. But that doesn't mean they aren't passing it on the their family or their teachers.
Going out is not the problem. Mixing with people is the problem.
We went to the beach yesterday and it was packed. Nice weather combined with every freaking thing else being cancelled I saw more people and cars on beaches than I can ever remember in the last 9 years.
Outside fresh air is actually considered good for your respiratory system - just keep your social distance and keep sanitizing and washing your hands and you should be at minimal risk. Open spaces like parks etc should be no problem.
Yes, I could have also mentioned the mortality rate in the under 30 group in all countries is a tiny fraction of those 60 and over. While every death is bad, we also have to realize that the likely option is that grandparents will be watching kids for those unable to work from home. Is that a better option? Absolutely not.
We can assume a million things, all we can go by is facts and/or logic at this point.
Yeah the point I am making is there isn’t really a good option at this point. Quarantine on the health providers makes the most sense, but then who watches the kids? Cancelling schools makes some sense but where do they all go when school is out? It’s hard to just pick and choose what we shut down.
do you have scientific evidence to back this up? I have heard that going outside isn’t bad but being around tons of people is—-outside or not. And while fresh air does help respiratory system it does not help you from passing it on.
I saw that Italy saw another spike in cases because people were going to the beach and gathering in town squares because they weren’t obeying the lockdown.
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