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Graham Couch: Iowa Basketball is a mid-major roster

CyTwins said:
Iowa's going to struggle without a favorable whistle down the stretch
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This is something that I'd sort of agree with. Iowa plays very aggressive and does a good job of drawing fouls, or looking like they've been fouled, which actually is a talent (see James Harden). However, just like in the playoffs for Harden, when it comes time for the NCAA tournament or even the Big 10 tournament, the refs usually aren't as favorable.

It has happened to West Virginia plenty of times. They hack and foul all year long and it's not called but once they get to March, those fouls are called and they end up losing. I could see the opposite thing happen for Iowa, where the referees aren't going to call the ticky tack fouls on the opposing teams.
 
Statefan10 said:
This is something that I'd sort of agree with. Iowa plays very aggressive and does a good job of drawing fouls, or looking like they've been fouled, which actually is a talent (see James Harden). However, just like in the playoffs for Harden, when it comes time for the NCAA tournament or even the Big 10 tournament, the refs usually aren't as favorable.

It has happened to West Virginia plenty of times. They hack and foul all year long and it's not called but once they get to March, those fouls are called and they end up losing. I could see the opposite thing happen for Iowa, where the referees aren't going to call the ticky tack fouls on the opposing teams.
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I dont understand your logic here. WVU fouls all year and then it gets called tighter in the NCAA tourney.

Iowa draws fouls all year but once the NCAA tourney gets here the refs are going to let them play more. You are contradicting your argument big time.
 
HawkJRP said:
I dont understand your logic here. WVU fouls all year and then it gets called tighter in the NCAA tourney.

Iowa draws fouls all year but once the NCAA tourney gets here the refs are going to let them play more. You are contradicting your argument big time.
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Actually I'm not. West Virginia hounds the ball handlers all game long and reaches constantly, and it's rarely called in conference play, but usually is called come tournament time and it hurts them.

Iowa gets a lot of calls down low on fouls that there usually isn't a lot of contact on. Maybe there's some, but Iowa players are pretty good at acting like there was a lot more contact being made than there really was. I could see those type of fouls not being called for them.
 
Statefan10 said:
Actually I'm not. West Virginia hounds the ball handlers all game long and reaches constantly, and it's rarely called in conference play, but usually is called come tournament time and it hurts them.

Iowa gets a lot of calls down low on fouls that there usually isn't a lot of contact on. Maybe there's some, but Iowa players are pretty good at acting like there was a lot more contact being made than there really was. I could see those type of fouls not being called for them.
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So the refs in the NCAA tourney games with WVU will call a tighter game but the refs in the NCAA tourney games with Iowa will allow more contact and not call it?

Sounds like wishful thinking.

Iowa averaged 24 FT attempts in their NCAA tourney games last season. They averaged just under 23 FT attempts on the season last year.
 
HawkJRP said:
I dont understand your logic here. WVU fouls all year and then it gets called tighter in the NCAA tourney.

Iowa draws fouls all year but once the NCAA tourney gets here the refs are going to let them play more. You are contradicting your argument big time.
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HawkJRP said:
So the refs in the NCAA tourney games with WVU will call a tighter game but the refs in the NCAA tourney games with Iowa will allow more contact and not call it?

Sounds like wishful thinking.

Iowa averaged 24 FT attempts in their NCAA tourney games last season. They averaged just under 23 FT attempts on the season last year.
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Well now you're just putting words into my mouth. I never said that the teams are going to hack Iowa and get away with it. I said that Iowa does a good job at making it look like there is more contact than there really is and that might get exploited in the tournament.

However, after looking it up Iowa only averages 20 per game this year so that's not an astronomical amount and I don't think should play a factor in the tournament so disregard what I said.
 
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My only takeaway from the officiating comments is officiating the post would be impossible. I don't know how you pick what is a foul and what isn't. When Garza was playing in the first half with 2 fouls there were several occasions where I think he could have been called for a third. I also saw several occasions it looked like he got fouled under the rim with no call. As I've said before, I'll be amazed if his body can tolerate all the physicality over the course of a full season.
 
Clonefan32 said:
My only takeaway from the officiating comments is officiating the post would be impossible. I don't know how you pick what is a foul and what isn't. When Garza was playing in the first half with 2 fouls there were several occasions where I think he could have been called for a third. I also so several occasions it looked like he got fouled under the rim with no call. As I've said before, I'll be amazed if his body can tolerate all the physicality over the course of a full season.
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Refereeing is an incredibly tough job. There are some refs that are really good and some that give everyone else a terrible name. Officiating in a game where there's a player like Garza would be incredibly difficult. He creates and draws so much contact where a ref could call a foul for displacement either way almost every other time. I think the officiating last night was actually done well as far as fouls called.
 
Go2Guy said:
Second time I was able to watch Iowa and was impressed with the offensive scheme (as I was Maryland); lots of slip-screens, movement w/o the ball; fast-moving and quick-setup after MD scores. Players know exactly what to execute when either in transition, or from half-court set.
Compared to Prohm's offense; Iowa look more disciplined with better execution.
From what I can tell about our O, it seems to rely on pretty much the High-ball screen, then either slip, or shoot. We have been running the KU perimeter weave to get the player we want into position for high-ball screen, but for the most part it looks to me to be more free-lanced. .
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I had this exact thought watching last night. The way they move and screen is so much better than us. You very rarely so the air being taken out of the ball up top. Constant movement and a deliberate attempt to play inside out. Not the most athletically gifted bunch, but they play hard and with a purpose.

I also was impressed by their collective intensity. Everyone is very engaged, from the guys on the floor, to the coaches to the bench.

So basically it the opposite of the product Steve puts on the floor.
 
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CyTwins said:
Wieskamp took 14 shots to get 17 points and only had one assist. Sounds like he needs to distribute the ball more instead of focusing on Joe
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He didn't play good. I thought his shot was off, I wouldn't say he took bad shots, he just couldn't knock them down like he should have or Iowa needed to win. Same for Fredrick.
 
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iahawks said:
He didn't play good. I thought his shot was off, I wouldn't say he took bad shots, he just couldn't knock them down like he should have or Iowa needed to win. Same for Fredrick.
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I think CJ needs to try and get all the way to the basket more. He tends to take that pull up jumper a lot and it looks like he could take an extra dribble to the rim.
 
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Statefan10 said:
I think CJ needs to try and get all the way to the basket more. He tends to take that pull up jumper a lot and it looks like he could take an extra dribble to the rim.
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I think CJ and Wieskamp missed some really good looks from three that they normally make at a higher percentage than they did last night. CJ air balled two wide open threes.
 
iahawks said:
I think CJ and Wieskamp missed some really good looks from three that they normally make at a higher percentage than they did last night. CJ air balled two wide open threes.
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Yeah they shot 38% between the two of them and both of them shoot higher than that. Maryland did a pretty good job of being active defenders and not allowing them to get a lot of clean looks but I'd agree there were definitely some shots that both of them should've probably knocked down.

Did any of the players make any comments towards the ball that was used? It's an under armour ball and I believe a few years ago there were some Iowa players that complained about it, which I don't blame them either. That ball is horrific. It bounces weird and honestly flies weird too.
 
FT stats:

Hawks 14/17
Terps 23-26

Literally the only stat that matters for Iowa basketball. If they don't shoot more FT's that means Garza was neutralized, that's how you beat Iowa.
 
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Statefan10 said:
Yeah they shot 38% between the two of them and both of them shoot higher than that. Maryland did a pretty good job of being active defenders and not allowing them to get a lot of clean looks but I'd agree there were definitely some shots that both of them should've probably knocked down.

Did any of the players make any comments towards the ball that was used? It's an under armour ball and I believe a few years ago there were some Iowa players that complained about it, which I don't blame them either. That ball is horrific. It bounces weird and honestly flies weird too.
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Forgot about that. That's why Iowa lost. That damn Under Armor ball. That's what I'm going to stick with forever now.
 
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iahawks said:
Forgot about that. That's why Iowa lost. That damn Under Armor ball. That's what I'm going to stick with forever now.
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Last I checked both teams had to play with the same ball. If someone ever blames a ball for a loss that would be comical.
 
iahawks said:
Forgot about that. That's why Iowa lost. That damn Under Armor ball. That's what I'm going to stick with forever now.
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Although it is funny.. I'm actually being serious when I say how bad that ball is lol. It's like an outdoor ball.
 
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