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This Dr. Manhattan clue blew my mind
The Dr. Manhattan brand dildo that Laurie had was called Excalibur
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I think that that scene was supposed to feel like that. Both of them feeling they are in a position of power in the situation without knowing what the other one knows. Jane was just waiting for her to slip up or reveal her assumptions, to finally reveal that she was in on it the whole time as well.
Also her "reaction" to Lauri bringing up mind control was a dead giveaway that she knew imo haha
I can get behind that and I did like how she just matter of factly told her she was right. It was just the trap door and her having to click it 4 times with no reaction from Laurie even after it dropped a couple inches. I'm not going to let a few minor details take away from the greatness of the show.
To me this has been some of the best television HBO has done since early seasons of GoT.
I'm watching it. Great show. last episode was crazy. I love how they named the blue dildo "Excalibur". Get it?
Loved the season, great pacing and storytelling. There's a lot of passage of time I didn't pick up on (each time Veidt gets a cake a year has passed), wonder if that's a bit intentional giving the viewer a Manhattan-esque feeling of observing all of time at once.
I just finished the the season up and loved it. I need to re-watch the season to pick up more of the things I missed, as I think there were lots of them.
Hopefully they'll make a second season. If Lost (early seasons), Breaking Bad, and Deadpool had a baby; this would be it imho.
edit - just saw the egg scene and they put a tint of blue in there, awe ****!
Hopefully they'll make a second season. If Lost (early seasons), Breaking Bad, and Deadpool had a baby; this would be it imho.
edit - just saw the egg scene and they put a tint of blue in there, awe ****!
Just heard today that the show's creator intended for it to be a one-off season and wasn't planning on doing a second season.
Apparently, he didn't even realize that he left kind of a cliffhanger at the end.
He originally wanted it to be so tied up that noone could add on to it, but it sounds like he changed his tone a bit as the season went along. I know his original plan was to take away Manhattan's powers so noone would want to pick it back up, but then he saw the reasoning for including the angela scene.
It makes me sad that he has no intention on doing another, however, I do think his approach to it being a one off season made the season more complete for sure. A lot of things tied up neatly, with paths forward but not many. But the more I think about I would be okay with this being the only season. As much as I'd love to get a conclusion on Angela's story, I don't need it. I think if they went forward a new director should take another viewpoint. Idk, something like the fallout of Laurie and Looking Glass exposing Adrien Veidt was the cause of the attack, and how the world rebounds from that (second) piece of world altering information, shortly after you had come to the realization that the world you lived in was the new norm. But idk, if I'd want it to be so heavily based on Manhattan's powers as it may seemed forced. Obviously you'd have to include it, but I feel they could go a few ways with this if they really wanted to pick it up an run with it. /rant
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I mean, he ended the show in the exact same manner that the comic ended, with ambiguity. That's sort of the point. One of the biggest themes of the entire series is about the abuse of power and the effects it has. At the end of the comic, one man causes the death of 3 million innocent people in the name of world peace. And whether or not the ends justify the means is left up to the reader.
The show somehow upped the stakes. It's not talking about what it means to have just power, but infinite power. What it means to literally be god. Trieu and Keene want to be gods, but for different reasons. Keene to "restore" white supremacy, and Trieu to be a benevolent force for humanity. But in the end there isn't much difference between the two. They both get there with violence and death. Veidt's subplot shows us the negative effects of being revered as a god, as he basically filled that role to the Crookshanks and Phillips clones. Even Dr. Manhattan wasn't very good at being a god, with Reeves remarking that he could've done more. Angela possibly being a god is just a continuance of the theme. And the reason we don't see the outcome is because "Nothing ever ends" which is another huge theme of the book/show.
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I don't see how a second season would be possible. Not while maintaining the quality or minimizing the events of the 1st season, which would be a shame. The show we got was amazing. It complimented the source material so well. It was amazing how many little references there were, if not outright duplication of dialogue. The attention to detail was insane.
The stuff happening in Tulsa could be just rumors in the Pacific Northwest or somewhere. The Internet doesn’t exist in this timeline.
You could have someone break Owlman (Dreiberg) out and have him conflicted on ignoring or returning to vigilantism, say in a city that’s trying to crack down on both criminals and vigilantes.
I’m perfectly content with leaving this as the complete story though. I really am not interested in 10 episodes of Angela with Manhattan’s powers.
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There's no internet, but there's still mass media. Veidt watched news from all over the world in Antarctica in 1985.
I'm with you in another season. It would run completely counter to the vibe of the entire universe to see Angela the way you described. A big point of the series is that superheroes are pretty stupid and ineffective if it's just vigilantes running around in costumes, and if they're the real thing AKA Dr. Manhattan, then they're mostly terrifying and dangerous, instead of benevolent and crime fighting.
Another season would not be worth it if they based it around Angela coming into her own with Manhattan's powers. I do think that they could be successful coming up with a new storyline in the same world they have built up. Or even a prequel of sorts, could work.
But I think if they do move forward with another season, it should be mainly a new storyline
I just had time to watch the Watchmen because of the holiday break and I gootta say it’s amazing. There were so many WTF moments where I literally just had to let things unfold, knowing as we got deeper in the episodes things would become clearer. I loved that aspect of the show and know others that would hate it...they’re idiots btw.
This is the best show since West World for HBO and should be left alone as a single season.
This is the best show since West World for HBO and should be left alone as a single season.
All 9 episodes of Watchmen will be free to watch this weekend on HBO.com
https://collider.com/how-to-watch-watchmen-hbo-for-free/
https://collider.com/how-to-watch-watchmen-hbo-for-free/
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Very cool. Incredibly good series. Even better if you've read the graphic novel prior.
Really cool that it's free. It is very topical to the current BLM and Defund the Police movements. If you've already watched the series, checkout the official podcast: https://www.hbo.com/watchmen/watchmen-listen-to-official-podcast
I was minorly disappointed in the unveiling of the Millennium Clock. I which they had been able to foreshadow what it was instead of relying on tecno-babble quantum centrifuge. They had a few things teased like an empath machine or mind control device.
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