Darlinstone Dubar
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I was getting a bit concerned with the lack of smoke from the staff on Anderson... Same lack of smoke on Lewis getting a set role in the rotation. Tre and Grill already seemed to have earned at least limited minutes on this years team.
While I don't think we should speculate on any players leaving especially a freshman before the season, the staff is recruiting like there are a couple spot opening in the spring.
Cytwins any whispers on Leech you feel comfortable sharing, I assumed his role is limited as he recovers from his injury and gains weight but, there hasn't been much else on his early practice expectation from the staff I've seen.
Oh great! Did Deamoncore say jereseib name three times.
he’s a LONG ways from the 5 star top 40 ranking he received as a sophmore in hs
maybe he’ll get back to that maybe not but he’s a LONG ways away.
You want to find all of these obvious skewed stats to try and win your argument and it's pretty old and tiring. Both coaches were able to bring in talent. When both coaches had good talent they produced good win totals. Prohm's tenure is obviously shorter than Hoiberg's, so his one bad season hits his totals harder than Hoiberg's does.
Were you claiming Hoiberg is a bad coach after 2014 when he had a 65% winning percentage over 4 years? Which compared is to 61% for Prohm over 4 years. Obviously less, and obviously some missed opportunities (see last year's conference slide), but it's not like were talking worlds of difference. Given the limited sample size and margins of error, both coaches are essentially the same and generate very similar results.
Leech needs to improve if he ever wants to be a contributor at this level
Improve as in fully recover from his injury, or improve on skills/teamwork/discipline/intangibles? Or both?
That is what my spidey sense was indicating from afar. Espcisally with the recent development of Prohm getting Blackwell and now going after Dubar after having Anderson and Leech on campus for 6 months now. Thanks for the info.
I generally agree, although every year isn’t even a requisite of doing a good job if the peaks are high enough. Imo NCAA Tournament success has a large weight, but is also a crapshoot. One of these years, the bounces will go our way.
Facts that are completely devoid of context are misleading. That .500 mark is completely thrown off by 2017-2018's 4-14 record, which was the result of an inevitable drop off due to a few failed recruiting efforts towards the end of Fred's tenure.
He inherited a bit down year for 2017-18 when he was hired, but one which he made worse by reaching for guys. He was left with a quality starter for that team, plus Young and Jackson which were essentially inherited. Often in seamless transitions the new staff bring recruits with them, but unfortunately that didn’t materialize in this case. Part of that’s on Prohm, but also Fred and JP for the transition happening in June.
what the hell are you talking about? If you think Probm has recruited 8 of the top 15 players that have ever come to ISU... well, you haven’t watched much ISU basketball.
We're now writing off a true freshman big who has yet to play his first game?
yes. No one needed to see Brady Ernst or Simeon Carter play a full 18 game conference schedule to know they weren’t capable big 12 big men.
same for Anderson.
Sorry, I don’t believe over half of the Top15 best basketball recruits in ISU history were signed in the last 5 years. If so we should have very very high expectations for this season. And the last one. And the one before that. And next season, give our team is stocked with the best talent in program history.
You gotta put recruiting rankings in context. What site is this? How far back do their rankings go? Do they include JCs? Transfer players?