Nebraska’s schedule too difficult for Scott Frost
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What heavyweights? In 2011 they beat ranked PSU and Michigan State....got beat bad by Wisky and Michigan but otherwise won 9 games.
Won 9 games in 2012, '13 and '14 as well.
They were never at the same level after 2001 or so but Nebraska's failure is a coaching thing not a conference thing.
Contrastly it's weird that the B1G gets ragged on so much around here, but people use the move to the B1G as the reason that Nebraska isn't successful, which comes off as a knock on the B12, which they tout as a tougher league than the B1G.
I think people think their recruiting has fallen moving to the Big 10 mainly because they lost recruiting ties to Texas and other southern states. In reality it just has more to do with hiring a couple really crappy coaches. When Nebby moved conferences, Bo Pelini was winning pretty much exactly the same amount. Had he stayed they would have been the same old yearly 9-10 win team.
I don't think the divisions in the big 10 are that lopsided. Yes the East is better, but Wisc just throttled Mich and MSU. Minn isn't too bad, they'd get 3rd or 4th in the East and they'll get 2nd in the West. Here's how I'd rank the Big 10
OSU
Penn St
Wisc
Mich
Minn
Iowa
MSU
The rest..
So the top 7 has 4 from the East and 3 from the West. Michigan is about like Texas is the big 12, always over hyped and underachieving.
OSU
Penn St
Wisc
Mich
Minn
Iowa
MSU
The rest..
So the top 7 has 4 from the East and 3 from the West. Michigan is about like Texas is the big 12, always over hyped and underachieving.
The Texas recruiting thing is just fans talking out of their asses. Their most decorated players in their history have come from NJ, Nebraska and California. Tommie Frazier was from Florida. They currently have 6 players from Texas and have recruited California very well as of late. Their recruiting footprint hasn’t really changed, it may have actually expanded. They also recruit in Georgia and Alabama. Outside of Texas, the Big 12 isn’t a southern conference recruiting wise. (Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama etc.)
Things are cyclical and it's not like there's not decent football tradition in both divisions of any conference, and it just goes with the ebb and flow.
And has been pointed out that is a myth. Their recruiting classes in the. Big 10 have been every bit as good or better than their last several in the Big 12. Not to mention Pelini was successful in both leagues. And weird, Calahan sucked in the Big 12. It's almost as if who the coach is factors into program success. Who'd of thought?
Their recruiting hasn't fallen. Here's Nebby's 247 team recruiting rank and (#) of 4 star recruits (plus 5 stars) since 2000:
2000 - #17 (1) (also 1 5 star)
2001 - #39 (1)
2002 - #35 (2)
2003 - #35 (2)
2004 - #27 (2)
2005 - #8 (7) (also 1 5 star)
2006 - #21 (5)
2007 - #19 (6)
2008 - #24 (3)
2009 - #40 (4)
2010 - #26 (5)
2011 - #16 (9)
2012 - #32 (8)
2013 - #22 (7)
2014 - #35 (2)
2015 - #30 (4)
2016 - #26 (4)
2017 - #23 (6)
2018 - #23 (6)
2019 - #18 (7)
It's funny hearing Nebby fans whine about the cupboard being bare in terms of talent. They've averaged 5-6 4-star recruits each of the past five years. They've had the exact same number of 4-star recruits the past 5 years as they had in their final 5 years in the Big 12.
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa are all pretty good teams. Honestly, Illinois is looking more and more like a not so bad team as the year goes on. Northwestern, Purdue, and Nebraska are really ****** though.
Agreed, that’s why if they just hired a good coach they would be back to being a regular 9-10 win team again. Coaching and player development is pretty much the issue there.
It’ll get exposed quickly in any conference. Well, not that quickly in the BIG, given NU’s success the first several years.
Purdue has been snakebit by injuries this year. I read last night that 16 freshmen played for Purdue yesterday. They had a top 25 recruiting class last year avs are on track to do the same this year. Players are buying into Brohm’s philosophy but they’ll have to recruit some linemen to go with all the 4* WRs they’ve been getting.
Nebraska averaged 9.25 wins the first 4 years in the Big 10. Are you saying it just took 5 years for that conference to expose their OL/DL?
line play was the reason they kept getting blown out in big games. Once Steinkuhler and Crick went down, it was over.
Exactly. A program with those resources and that level of talent should be winning 9-10 games every year. Embarrassing.
This has been the problem at ISU for a very long time. They have always seemed to find some nice skill people, DBs and LBers, but the lines on both sides have been way below par. Now somehow CMC has solved the DL issues, which were the worst of the two, but the OL has just never gotten there. Hopefully they have the OL figured out with some better recruiting the last 2 years.