Nebraska was not more disciplined than ISU that day and lost. Army had a way lower percentage for 3rd downs conversions, and did not win the turnover battle, while both teams had high penalties.
The infamous holding call
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If you take away ISUs bad things and turn them into good things. Then take away Iowa’s good things and turn them into bad things. We would have won.
Also, refs.
Also, refs.
You are missing something. It was there, and he had a hold of the outside of the shoulder pad anyway before going high to the face area.
Also, as has been explained the refs did miss a few calls for Iowa before the offsetting calls. It is how football goes sometimes. Iowa got a break on that play, but I am sure both teams caught breaks throughout the game. Like the botched punt that Iowa recovered.
Correct, what I'm saying is sometimes the most disciplined team doesn't always win. In last weekend's game, Iowa State looked like the better team the entire game until the last drive and that's when it counted. Iowa won the game and deserved to win it with how badly we messed up on that punt.
Who's Brents? Hankins was brutal week one when he was healthy
You're missing the point here. These guys are acting like AJ dominated during the game. He didn't 'dominate.' Sure he made plays and impacted the game, just like a handful of other players did, but he wasn't a superman like they are claiming.
Agree totally. I watched that about 5 times back and forth yesterday looking for hands to the face and it was not there. You would think refs would be taught to NOT call something unless they actually saw the whole interaction and saw the foul occur.
Not just this game but in general, it seems like refs call a lot that they only got a partial glimpse of and they just fill in the blanks and assume the rest. You see a helmet tip back so you assume hands to the face. You see a guy collapse to the ground so you assume he was thrown. I think this happens way too often. I remember last year there was a player called for roughing the passer when he was near Purdy. Another ref came in and overruled the penalty, and on replay you could see the guy never even touched Purdy. So what did that first ref actually see? He saw a lot of flailing arms and from there just filled in the blanks and assumed the defender had hit Purdy.
No he didn't hold, it's not there, sorry. have you seen the replay from both the ground level and the normal camera level? I watched it several times from both angles, slowed it down best I could, I can't see what you describe. If it was there, it was for a fraction of a second, in which case it didn't happen. The ref fked up, that is what happened. He saw what looked like a guy getting thrown to the ground, instead it was a guy that was off balance because of a combination of a shove/push from the side and his own up field momentum along with a Meeker push while he was already going down. NO HOLD.
Well, sometimes it is how the ball bounces. ISU caught some breaks the last few years. You cannot always win close games. Gotta go for the jugular more. (As an Iowa fan I get really frustrated by this from our style of play).
I am talking about the illegal hands to the face penalty, which is what I responded to.
regardless, he had his arm hooked outside on the shoulder pad (holding) and high in the area of the face, which made the penalty be called. hard to ignore that.
This is how sports work. To be good / great, you have to be lucky. Hopefully we got this bad luck out of the way early, but as an Iowa State fan, that's usually not how it goes.
Brents is probably the next good corner for Iowa, between him Ojemudia, Hankins and Johnson it is a formidable group when healthy. Stone added in there with Meriwether too. Stone was gimpy during the ISU game. Brents did not play and is a valuable asset to the D. Not sold on Meriwether myself but he is young and will grow.
I never said he dominated. The LT did a commendable job against him and the ISU scheme coupled with Purdy's quick decision making kept him mostly in check. But he did have an impact on the game and did beat the LT enough that normally would have resulted in some bigger plays for Iowa's defense. Again credit goes to ISU.
the last 2 years ISU has been "lucky" in their games then. Often if they come down to the final possession you got lucky somewhere, and it is usually because you were more disciplined than the other team throughout the whole game.
oh sorry my bad, I thought you were talking about the hold on the 4rth and 13. My apologies.
2 years ago we caught a ball to win the game against OSU and it was ruled an interception so we lost. In the Kansas State game, we lost because the referees picked up 3 penalty flags that would've ended the game right there. Last year we missed a game winning field goal in the bowl game. I wouldn't call any of those things lucky.