Salt on wound...

We need to be able to land a top recruit at Kicker and Punter. If CMC really does care about winning the margins, this needs to be a necessity.

If we can get a kicker that can consistently be accurate from 40/45+ yards and a punter who consistently can get 50+ yard punts (Van Der Camp anyone?)... Those are legitimate game changers.

Agree; even with the Punt Rtn snafu, I would not have been confident we win by a FG unless we got down inside the 25 yd line.
 
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I think if we fix special teams, we are good. I know there are mistakes by all units but when I think about last year and so far this year, special teams is the most frequent and egregious violator.

Take away Lang's ill advised return from 1 yard deep and the PR snafu to end the game and we likely win by a TD.

Add to that the inability to generate any kind of return - the missed field goal (not a long kick) against UNI.

Season looks completely different, without touching offense or defense mistakes.

I haven't spent the time but I bet there was a game or two last year we could have won with better ST play as well.

I'd have to look but I'd be willing to bet WV's blocked field goal (72 yard return) for a TD was more yardage than they had in the whole 2nd half or close to it.

30-14 is still an ass kicking but it could have been worse....ISU still had 10 penalties for 95 yards.
 
Awesome stats - thanks for sharing. Can someone explain their interpretation of the last bullet point : "...that Iowa D is amazing on passing downs (6th in PD success rate).." ??
Somewhat --
Iowa's opponents have a very bad success rate specifically on expected passing downs. This reflects very favorably on the Iowa defense on expected passing downs (like 3rd and long-ish). Iowa defense is 6th best in the nation.
Or basically, Iowa's defense has done exceptionally well when they get their opponents into obvious passing downs.

I'm not perfectly sure what defines "success" nor what defines a "passing down" -- but it's probably not hard to look up if someone really cares.
 
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I think if we fix special teams, we are good. I know there are mistakes by all units but when I think about last year and so far this year, special teams is the most frequent and egregious violator.

Take away Lang's ill advised return from 1 yard deep and the PR snafu to end the game and we likely win by a TD.

Add to that the inability to generate any kind of return - the missed field goal (not a long kick) against UNI.

Season looks completely different, without touching offense or defense mistakes.

I haven't spent the time but I bet there was a game or two last year we could have won with better ST play as well.

Special Teams killed us against Iowa last year too, and made the Tech game much closer than it should have been.
 
We need to be able to land a top recruit at Kicker and Punter. If CMC really does care about winning the margins, this needs to be a necessity.

If we can get a kicker that can consistently be accurate from 40/45+ yards and a punter who consistently can get 50+ yard punts (Van Der Camp anyone?)... Those are legitimate game changers.

Far too many coaches don't put enough value in special teams.

I remember Bud Grant saying at one point that the game is split into 3 parts: offense, defense, and special teams. It'd be stupid to only be good at 2 of the 3.

I think it doesn't help that kickers constantly get **** on by everyone for no good reason, thus culling the population of people who would want to play the position.
 
Somewhat --
Iowa's opponents have a very bad success rate specifically on expected passing downs. This reflects very favorably on the Iowa defense on expected passing downs (like 3rd and long-ish). Iowa defense is 6th best in the nation.
Or basically, Iowa's defense has done exceptionally well when they get their opponents into obvious passing downs.
So we’re right with Rutgers and Miami of Ohio
 
Far too many coaches don't put enough value in special teams.

I remember Bud Grant saying at one point that the game is split into 3 parts: offense, defense, and special teams. It'd be stupid to only be good at 2 of the 3.

I think it doesn't help that kickers constantly get **** on by everyone for no good reason, thus culling the population of people who would want to play the position.

It also doesn't help that ISU doesn't seem to use non-con games (like the UNI game) to get into "game shape". In that first game, UNI punted 6 times, and ISU didn't try to return one. And up until the last punt, ISU didn't attempt a punt return against Iowa. And then, when ISU needed to set up a punt return against Iowa under game pressure, it failed miserably.

It's just not possible to replicate the pressures of a real game situation in practice. I always thought one reason for playing a couple of easier non-con games was to get players used to the game experience. I guess for ISU now, the purpose of the easier non-con games is just to do the minimum necessary to grab a win for bowl eligibility. That just seems like a waste of a good teaching opportunity.
 
It also doesn't help that ISU doesn't seem to use non-con games (like the UNI game) to get into "game shape". In that first game, UNI punted 6 times, and ISU didn't try to return one. And up until the last punt, ISU didn't attempt a punt return against Iowa. And then, when ISU needed to set up a punt return against Iowa under game pressure, it failed miserably.
You could extend that to all facets of the game, as well as missing on opportunities to build depth.

We are getting good practice at being in critical 4th downs and other high pressure situations, although that seems like needless risk.
 
It also doesn't help that ISU doesn't seem to use non-con games (like the UNI game) to get into "game shape". In that first game, UNI punted 6 times, and ISU didn't try to return one. And up until the last punt, ISU didn't attempt a punt return against Iowa. And then, when ISU needed to set up a punt return against Iowa under game pressure, it failed miserably.

It's just not possible to replicate the pressures of a real game situation in practice. I always thought one reason for playing a couple of easier non-con games was to get players used to the game experience. I guess for ISU now, the purpose of the easier non-con games is just to do the minimum necessary to grab a win for bowl eligibility. That just seems like a waste of a good teaching opportunity.

Through 2 games this year I can't figure out what we are trying to accomplish with our punt return unit. We don't really pin our ears back and go for he block but we don't really try to set up a wall either. It's almost like we just concede the play with a return safe coverage.
 
Through 2 games this year I can't figure out what we are trying to accomplish with our punt return unit. We don't really pin our ears back and go for he block but we don't really try to set up a wall either. It's almost like we just concede the play with a return safe coverage.

I have no idea. If the punting team has great coverage, then by all means, fair-catch it. But there have been several times where IMO ISU could have gained some nice yards with a return, and the current strategy eliminates any chance of making a big, momentum-shifting play. It seems like a passive approach, and as you say, it doesn't put any pressure on the punting team either on the front end or back end of the play. It's "safe". Maybe there is fear of injury???
 
The biggest differences in this game are that Iowa got (was give one) turnovers, and ISU did not. ISU had a lot of opportunities to get a TO, including the first play of the game where if Spears had broke on the pass .1 seconds earlier he would have had a walk in pick 6. Lots of balls were batted in the air, but ISU was just a couple feet too far away most of the time.

Yes, ISU did make some mistakes, but if ISU picks Stanley 3 times no one is talking about that.
 
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Somewhat --
Iowa's opponents have a very bad success rate specifically on expected passing downs. This reflects very favorably on the Iowa defense on expected passing downs (like 3rd and long-ish). Iowa defense is 6th best in the nation.
Or basically, Iowa's defense has done exceptionally well when they get their opponents into obvious passing downs.

I'm not perfectly sure what defines "success" nor what defines a "passing down" -- but it's probably not hard to look up if someone really cares.
What people don’t seem to get is Iowa deliberately gives up underneath stuff, forcing a qb to make accurate pass after pass all the way down the field without making mistakes, which is statistically very tough.

Then when teams get to the red zone they tighten up and try not to give up anything. People that think Iowa’s pass defense magically got lucky every time the field shortened knows nothing about football strategy.
 
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What people don’t seem to get is Iowa deliberately gives up underneath stuff, forcing a qb to make accurate pass after pass all the way down the field without making mistakes, which is statistically very tough.

Then when teams get to the red zone they tighten up and try not to give up anything. People that think Iowa’s pass defense magically got lucky every time the field shortened knows nothing about football strategy.
First time you’ve watched the Iowa State offense?

UNI’s defense did it better imo.
 
There were probably 6 or so of those single plays including Lang's return that taking away any one of them would have changed the outcome.
  • 3rd and 22 conversion (gotta give Stanley credit on that one)
  • Dropped interception #1
  • Dropped interception #2
  • Overthrow to Kolar in endzone
Purdy's fumble was probably the single most impactful play. It was at least a -3 point swing, most probably a -6 or even a -10 swing.

You could analyze any game where a team wins by less than a field goal and come up with the same "what if" scenarios. Games like this with minimal possesions are about playing smart and not making stupid mistakes. Iowa doesnt have special teams players that take out their own punt returner, so they won the game.
 
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