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[Aclone]

Ran across this on YouTube. I thought these guys stressed last year's pass defense stats a bit much, considering the overall defense, but the video was still worth watching.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Meh, pretty lazy analysis. They are about where everyone else is.

 

[CTTB78]

I'll take the 9-3 that both of these guys picked us for.

 

[Bipolarcy]

Meh, pretty lazy analysis. They are about where everyone else is.

Not sure what team they're looking at because we return more starters than they say we do. It's 8 on defense and 8 on offense, right? We lost Eaton, Butler and Montgomery on offense, and Harvey, Peavy and Payne on defense. Then they say they return five of their front seven on defense. We don't play a front seven on defense. Who are the two they think we lose from a "front seven?"

 

[madguy30]

Hacks.

They're having to read off their cards for Montgomery's name.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Great article in the Athletic this morning on break out college teams. Leading off is ISU.

https://theathletic.com/1124265/2019/08/09/college-football-team-breakout-season-candidates-2019/

 

[Frak]

Not sure what team they're looking at because we return more starters than they say we do. It's 8 on defense and 8 on offense, right? We lost Eaton, Butler and Montgomery on offense, and Harvey, Peavy and Payne on defense. Then they say they return five of their front seven on defense. We don't play a front seven on defense. Who are the two they think we lose from a "front seven?"

I think that they probably saw 5 players returning and just made the assumption it was a 3-4 or 4-3. 3-3 is pretty uncommon. On offense, you could easily say that Seonbuchner was a starter. Depends on the formation.

I don't buy that the secondary was that much of a liability last year. There were times that teams threw the ball on us just because we weren't getting a huge rush with 3 guys or they were keeping everything in front of them and forcing teams to make a bunch of consecutive plays to drive the ball.

 

[jdoggivjc]

I think that they probably saw 5 players returning and just made the assumption it was a 3-4 or 4-3. 3-3 is pretty uncommon. On offense, you could easily say that Seonbuchner was a starter. Depends on the formation.

I don't buy that the secondary was that much of a liability last year. There were times that teams threw the ball on us just because we weren't getting a huge rush with 3 guys or they were keeping everything in front of them and forcing teams to make a bunch of consecutive plays to drive the ball.

One thing I didn't like about their analysis is start throwing out national rankings without context. "Oh - ISU has a passing defense that ranks in the bottom half of FCS - it MUST be a bad passing defense" without taking into consideration for a second that the Big 12 is an extremely pass-happy league and ISU held nearly every Big 12 opponent below its season average in passing. ISU had a very good pass defense last year that was never going to rank high nationally simply because of the play style of its opponents.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

One thing I didn't like about their analysis is start throwing out national rankings without context. "Oh - ISU has a passing defense that ranks in the bottom half of FCS - it MUST be a bad passing defense" without taking into consideration for a second that the Big 12 is an extremely pass-happy league and ISU held nearly every Big 12 opponent below its season average in passing. ISU had a very good pass defense last year that was never going to rank high nationally simply because of the play style of its opponents.

Yep, lazy analysis.

 

[Aclone]

Yep, lazy analysis.

Agreed. I’ll still take the growing national respect two 9-3 predictions implies.