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Statefan10 said:
IMO, there isn't a large enough sample size to determine who's the better coach. More years need to go by for that to happen. Campbell in his first 3 years has definitely accomplished more than Kirk Ferentz did in his first 3 years though.
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I agree more time needs to pass before an accurate conclusion can be made but that doesn’t stop CyTwins. Both coaches were in the Alamo Bowl their 3rd year. One won and one didn’t. I would agree that CMC has had more total victories in his first 3 years than KF did. We will see if CMC does in year 4 what KF did. The first 3 years of Paul Rhodes were similar in wins to CMC’s but he didn’t make it either. Goes back to your point on more time needs to pass.

I get that CyTwins doesn’t really want to debate it is all about the troll. I expect he will pick certain parts of this post and will reply thousands of times about it while ignoring the post in its entirety.
 
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Walmartthieves said:
I agree more time needs to pass before an accurate conclusion can be made but that doesn’t stop CyTwins. Both coaches were in the Alamo Bowl their 3rd year. One won and one didn’t. I would agree that CMC has had more total victories in his first 3 years than KF did. We will see if CMC does in year 4 what KF did. The first 3 years of Paul Rhodes were similar in wins to CMC’s but he didn’t make it either. Goes back to your point on more time needs to pass.

I get that CyTwins doesn’t really want to debate it is all about the troll. I expect he will pick certain parts of this post and will reply thousands of times about it while ignoring the post in its entirety.
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I'm pretty sure you dumbfucks aren't going to change the other's mind so why do you guys continue to litter this amazing board with your drivel?
 
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Walmartthieves said:
I agree more time needs to pass before an accurate conclusion can be made but that doesn’t stop CyTwins. Both coaches were in the Alamo Bowl their 3rd year. One won and one didn’t. I would agree that CMC has had more total victories in his first 3 years than KF did. We will see if CMC does in year 4 what KF did. The first 3 years of Paul Rhodes were similar in wins to CMC’s but he didn’t make it either. Goes back to your point on more time needs to pass.

I get that CyTwins doesn’t really want to debate it is all about the troll. I expect he will pick certain parts of this post and will reply thousands of times about it while ignoring the post in its entirety.
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In the 2001 Alamo Bowl, Iowa was 6-5 going into that game against a 7-4 Texas Tech team, who was not anything special, and neither of those team were ranked. Iowa State was 8-4 going into the Alamo Bowl, was the 3rd best team in the Big 12 and ranked #25 in the nation. We played Washington State, the best team in the Pac-12 with the best passing attack in the nation. They were 10-2 and ranked #12 in the nation. Saying KF had a better 3rd year because he won the Alamo bowl is stupid.
 
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Walmartthieves said:
I agree more time needs to pass before an accurate conclusion can be made but that doesn’t stop CyTwins. Both coaches were in the Alamo Bowl their 3rd year. One won and one didn’t. I would agree that CMC has had more total victories in his first 3 years than KF did. We will see if CMC does in year 4 what KF did. The first 3 years of Paul Rhodes were similar in wins to CMC’s but he didn’t make it either. Goes back to your point on more time needs to pass.

I get that CyTwins doesn’t really want to debate it is all about the troll. I expect he will pick certain parts of this post and will reply thousands of times about it while ignoring the post in its entirety.
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I'll take "Children Who Were Dropped on Their Heads" for 500, Alex.
 
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Hawkmi said:
If you have any real evidence to back up your claims, I would imagine there are vastly better outlets/mediums to share those on then a anonymous internet message board. That is if you are actually trying to educate rather than spit vitriolic ad hominem attacks at people online. Your holier than though shtick is fun and all, but it's getting a little tired.
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theiacowtipper said:
Hmmm. What program would you aspire to then? That you wouldn’t be disappointed rising to the level of. It wou,d have to be a program that consistently goes to New Years Six bowls and occasionally goes to the CFP, cause that’s a step up from what Ferentz has done. I think you’re setting yourself up to be disappointed. There are about ten of those programs in the country.
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Hey, thanks for telling me as a fan what I hope our program accomplishes. Gosh, without you brilliant hok fans around here to tell us how to think, we would be lost. I really am not interested in what your inbred fanbase defines success as.

******* elite ******** is what you are.

I would expect we can achieve a level of Snyder led KSU, Wisconsin, Okie St, to name a few that have been better than hoks. In summary, we should be one of the top 20 programs in the country, one of the top 4 in The Big XII.
 
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Walmartthieves said:
You believe a random poll not actual accomplishments determines who the best coaches are.

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What is the difference between a regular poll and a random poll?

I am guessing a regular or official poll rates hoks high and a random poll doesnt?

Cuz the way I see it, there is nothing more random or disconnected from reality in college athletics than the hok fanbase
 
CyTwins said:
I don't struggle with reading and I don't believe he's saying he'll be disappointed if we don't become Oklahoma or Ohio State. Iowa has 2* top 25 finishes this decade. You're clueless about where you stand as a football program nationally
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So he said he would be disappointed at the level achieved by Iowa. Consistent bowl appearances and occasionally challenging for conference titles. The next step is better bowls and challenging nearly every year for conference titles. Not many schools do that.
 
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inCyteful said:
Hey, thanks for telling me as a fan what I hope our program accomplishes. Gosh, without you brilliant hok fans around here to tell us how to think, we would be lost. I really am not interested in what your inbred fanbase defines success as.

******* elite ******** is what you are.

I would expect we can achieve a level of Snyder led KSU, Wisconsin, Okie St, to name a few that have been better than hoks. In summary, we should be one of the top 20 programs in the country, one of the top 4 in The Big XII.
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I don’t know how you can say KSU is a better program than Iowa right now. In the 90s? Sure. Wisconsin Jan a better program. So is Oklahoma State. Especially Wisconsin. But it’s really hard to get to that level. How much better does OSU recruit than ISU?

Again, not saying that it can’t be done, but becoming a consistent top 20 program is a long ways away from where you are now. I’m certainly not saying Iowa is there either.
 
inCyteful said:
Hey, thanks for telling me as a fan what I hope our program accomplishes. Gosh, without you brilliant hok fans around here to tell us how to think, we would be lost. I really am not interested in what your inbred fanbase defines success as.

******* elite ******** is what you are.

I would expect we can achieve a level of Snyder led KSU, Wisconsin, Okie St, to name a few that have been better than hoks. In summary, we should be one of the top 20 programs in the country, one of the top 4 in The Big XII.
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And I’ve never had sex with my sister, only yours.
 
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theiacowtipper said:
I don’t know how you can say KSU is a better program than Iowa right now. In the 90s? Sure. Wisconsin Jan a better program. So is Oklahoma State. Especially Wisconsin. But it’s really hard to get to that level. How much better does OSU recruit than ISU?

Again, not saying that it can’t be done, but becoming a consistent top 20 program is a long ways away from where you are now. I’m certainly not saying Iowa is there either.
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Can you read? Did I not say Snyder led Ksu? 2x as good as your program.

Stop trying to shove your wants for a program down our throat. You are happy with what you have, we aren't and wouldn't be. Two different perspectives.
 
theiacowtipper said:
So he said he would be disappointed at the level achieved by Iowa. Consistent bowl appearances and occasionally challenging for conference titles. The next step is better bowls and challenging nearly every year for conference titles. Not many schools do that.
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Wait wait... Iowa does not challenge nearly every year for a conference title. They've been in the conference championship one time since 2004. That's obviously better than what Iowa State has done, but this isn't the early 2000's anymore.
 
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theiacowtipper said:
So he said he would be disappointed at the level achieved by Iowa. Consistent bowl appearances and occasionally challenging for conference titles. The next step is better bowls and challenging nearly every year for conference titles. Not many schools do that.
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There is a monster difference between Oklahoma and Ohio State vs Iowa
 
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inCyteful said:
Give me one post from this site or any other site that says that. Just one.

You know where to find me.

And mean while, it is still ALLLL about us and what we are doing. How good will or won't we be. That really has to eat at you and your type.
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Blum "under estimate Paul Rhroads at your peril"" ask him
 
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