Big 12 Network

I think we should set up a new network. We can invite Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State and Michigan to join and we can split the pot evenly.
 
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Losing games on CyclonesTV will finally make me cut the chord. Will be in the market this fall for a streaming service and will get the ESPN+
 
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No need for it. Every game except the FCS opponent (UNI, SDSU, etc) is on either the ESPN or Fox Sports networks. They pay the conference for those rights. If there was a Big 12 Network it would become a pseudo Longhorn Network. No thanks.

Also, keep the conference at 10 teams. The round robin in football and basketball is great. No escaping anyone and home/away flip flops every year. No avoiding the big boys and playing soft schedules from time to time like Iowa/Nebraska get to pull off way too often.
 
How sustainable is the B10 Network situation? Honest question. How does that go when fleecing non-viewers dies out with cable/satellite? The B10 will always have a money stream from somewhere, don't get me wrong, but just wondering.
It probably depends on where they go. I went to YouTubetv and it has the big 10 network. So if everyone did they’d probably be fine. But if the people who don’t care about sports choose Hulu (assuming they don’t have the big 10 network) or Netflix or HBOGo or whatever, then the big 10 would probably feel at least some pain.
 
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It probably depends on where they go. I went to YouTubetv and it has the big 10 network. So if everyone did they’d probably be fine. But if the people who don’t care about sports choose Hulu (assuming they don’t have the big 10 network) or Netflix or HBOGo or whatever, then the big 10 would probably feel at least some pain.


The big thing is that the big ten doesn't get money for who wants the service like it would be with streaming, they get paid for who is in the footprint and can be potential customers, IIRC. With streaming you don't know if they are in Chicago or LA, so you can only charge for who is actually subscribing to the provider.
 
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How sustainable is the B10 Network situation? Honest question. How does that go when fleecing non-viewers dies out with cable/satellite? The B10 will always have a money stream from somewhere, don't get me wrong, but just wondering.

In it's current form the B1G network will have the same issues that ESPN and FOX will have in a few years. The days of price gouging the cable subscriber are over. The networks are collecting far less money from the streaming services in comparison to the cable companies so eventually something will have to give. The B1G is ahead of this some with their BTN To Go platform but you are still talking about individual subscriptions vs all cable customers. It's amazing how few people truly understand the significance of the Big 12 aligning with ESPN+ was.
 
That's all the proof I need.....we are doomed.
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While I don’t agree with gunner view...we will find out in 3 years if OU stays and the big 12 lives.. it is entirely on OU...TX has no desire to go anywhere..why would they.

OU on other hand can pick SEC or BIG...I find it hard to imagine the BIG accepting OU academically but this is all about $$ and major realignment 2.0 goes thru Norman..

Come 2022/23 ish Rutgers will be making $55 mil+ and OU likely $10 mil less per year. That won’t sit well.

Big 12 needs OU and TX to be consistent top 15 teams over next 3-4 years and making playoffs more times than not. Otherwise the big 12 has little bargaining power.

I agree that the fate of the conference rests with OU and not Texas. But its also not as easy or a money making decision for OU as you make out. Last time I looked OU was still in the top 10 to 12 schools from their media contracts. Add in their tier 3 media rights and they will be making as much if not more than most of the teams in the big 10.

The question is does OU want to possible make a few more millions, but then decrease their chance at making the college football playoffs? The academics at OU are below every school in the Big 10, and they were found out to be giving false data last month, so maybe that increase that they claimed was not really happening. They also have the problem of OSU, will their BOR allow them to move if it endangers the Cowboys in any way.

Led the conference along with Texas or be just another member to Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama and Florida. and make a few million more, but decrease your chance at the playoffs. It would also increase their travel budget in terms of time and money.

Texas, as much as they say, is stuck in the big 12 unless they would like to pull a ND type deal, and go independent. With aTm in the SEC. UT will never stoop to going that conference. Hell, they look down on the Aggies like Iowa does us, and now they are following them to a different conference. ESPN will never allow them to go to the Big 10, they will not give the LHN programing to rival fox. So its the ND path and the ACC or staying put. I will add, in my opinion, UT never was actually planning on going to the PAC, they wanted the threat that they might go to get the LHN. If they try that again, the conference needs to call that bluff.

The Big 12 needs to just relax and wait to see what is happening with the Pac 12, their network is a **** show, and not bringing in anywhere close to the money that was promised. In 3 more years, both Arizona schools might be more than willing to listen to an offer to join the Big 12. If WV wants to leave, then offer Colorado its spot back, but the ACC will never take WV, if they were, then the Mountaineers would be playing there now.
 
ESPN will never allow them to go to the Big 10, they will not give the LHN programing to rival fox.

ESPN would LOVE to get out of the LHN contract. The LHN has cost ESPN a ton of money and ESPN has received zero benefit for it. If UT moved to the B1G the LHN would cease to exist as the B1G owns the tier 3 rights.
 
Football is the money maker. Unless you're a blue blood basketball program with bad football ie Kansas, conference realignment is 99% based on football.
I mean, I agree, but I don't think that's relevant when assessing the need for a conference network-- unless I misunderstood your statement "no need." A conference network, as pointed out by @Tornado man, is the killer app for the so-called Olympic sports.
 
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I mean, I agree, but I don't think that's relevant when assessing the need for a conference network-- unless I misunderstood your statement "no need." A conference network, as pointed out by @Tornado man, is the killer app for the so-called Olympic sports.
There is no need for a Big 12 Network. The money making sports are already on national/regional tv networks. Every single conference football and men's basketball game is on ESPN or Fox Sports. Every single worthy non-conference opponent ie Iowa/P6's are on tv. So tv doesn't carry the cupcake games. Guess who does. Cyclones TV.

Where does ISU benefit from having a Big 12 Network? Their exposure is already really high via ESPN/FS. Do you want a network just so Olympic sports can be seen? Who honestly tunes into the B1G to watch Iowa swimming? Very very few, I would bet. Not worth it in the grand scheme of things. Sorry Olympic sports.
 
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ESPN would LOVE to get out of the LHN contract. The LHN has cost ESPN a ton of money and ESPN has received zero benefit for it. If UT moved to the B1G the LHN would cease to exist as the B1G owns the tier 3 rights.

Texas is never letting go of that deal. So it's Big 12 or ACC/Independent through 2031. I dream of a day where we could talk Mizzou into swapping with West Virginia.
 
Texas is never letting go of that deal. So it's Big 12 or ACC/Independent through 2031. I dream of a day where we could talk Mizzou into swapping with West Virginia.

Honestly, the only school that left the Big 12 that I would want back is Colorado. They left because of the chaos not because they thought the grass was greener. A&M, NU, and Mizzou can all **** off.

Watching Mizzou and Nebraska trying to figure out life without Texas recruiting has been quite enjoyable. Nebraska has the brand recognition and appears to be trending in the right direction but Mizzou is now the below average looking cousin at an Alabama wedding.
 
There is no need for a Big 12 Network. The money making sports are already on national/regional tv networks. Every single conference football and men's basketball game is on ESPN or Fox Sports. Every single worthy non-conference opponent ie Iowa/P6's are on tv. So tv doesn't carry the cupcake games. Guess who does. Cyclones TV.

Where does ISU benefit from having a Big 12 Network? Their exposure is already really high via ESPN/FS. Do you want a network just so Olympic sports can be seen? Who honestly tunes into the B1G to watch Iowa swimming? Very very few, I would bet. Not worth it in the grand scheme of things. Sorry Olympic sports.
I love it when people extrapolate "I don't watch that" into "nobody watches that."

Suffice to say, you're very wrong.
 

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