Hesco barrier levee breaks-Downtown Davenport flooded

[Deleted member 8507]

Eye witnesses said that it flooded in a couple of minutes when the levee broke.

https://wqad.com/2019/04/30/watch-live-levy-breach-downtown-davenport/

 

[clonedude]

Climate change folks. Get used to it.

 

[Doc]

 

[jdoggivjc]

Climate change folks. Get used to it.

As someone who grew up in Davenport and is familiar with the history of the city, climate change is irrelevant to the discussion whether it's having an impact or not. That river floods every other year anyway - always has. This is more of an indictment on city leaders that have never wanted to do any permanent flood protection because "it would screw up the river view".

 

[madguy30]

As someone who grew up in Davenport and is familiar with the history of the city, climate change is irrelevant to the discussion whether it's having an impact or not. That river floods every other year anyway - always has. This is more of an indictment on city leaders that have never wanted to do any permanent flood protection because "it would screw up the river view".

Yeah the oceans rising in temps etc. is a thing but this is a different deal, unless it's a result of repeated flooding vs. past decades or years.

Either way it comes down to humans trying to control water and take away where water is supposed to go.

 

[alarson]

Yeah the oceans rising in temps etc. is a thing but this is a different deal, unless it's a result of repeated flooding vs. past decades or years.

Either way it comes down to humans trying to control water and take away where water is supposed to go.

Some of the flooding we are seeing lately is a result of climate change though, particularly as we see more 'deluge' type events that overwhelm the drainage systems that are currently in place. Places that have never flooded seeing floods, and places that have flooded before seeing those circumstances become more frequent.

 

[SoapyCy]

Pictures I saw didn't go beyond the first block. Bad, but thankfully not cedar rapids level of flooding.

 

[Sigmapolis]

And not trying to make light of the situation here --

The original blues song referred to a similar and terrible incident.

Background and lyrics[edit]
When blues musical duo Kansas Joe McCoy and Memphis Minnie wrote "When the Levee Breaks", the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 was still fresh in people's memories.[2] The flooding affected 26,000 square miles of the Mississippi Delta – hundreds were killed and hundreds of thousands of residents were forced to evacuate.[3] The event is the subject of several blues songs, including "High Water Everywhere" by Charley Patton and "Backwater Blues" by Bessie Smith.[1]

Ethel Douglas, Minnie's sister-in-law, recalled that Minnie was living with her family near Walls, Mississippi, when the levee broke in 1927.[2] The song's lyrics recount the personal toll on a man who lost his home and family. Despite the tragedy, biographers also see in it a statement of rebirth.[4]

 

[chuckd4735]

Some of the flooding we are seeing lately is a result of climate change though, particularly as we see more 'deluge' type events that overwhelm the drainage systems that are currently in place. Places that have never flooded seeing floods, and places that have flooded before seeing those circumstances become more frequent.

Or it's a result of neary every inch of ground in this State being tiled or placed into a storm sewer and outleted into the nearest water way, rather then being soaked up by the ground.

 

[harimad]

As someone who grew up in Davenport and is familiar with the history of the city, climate change is irrelevant to the discussion whether it's having an impact or not. That river floods every other year anyway - always has. This is more of an indictment on city leaders that have never wanted to do any permanent flood protection because "it would screw up the river view".

Davenport flooding is crazy. When Duck Creek flooded, we had to take in a family friend for the summer because the area where his house was (the two blocks between Brady and Harrison) was pretty much destroyed. I couldn't believe it. There are places where I can jump over Duck Creek.

 

[baller21]

Yikes. I was staying at the Radison along the river just last week. Looks like that may be surrounded by water now. Front Street brewing must be under water and Great River down the street probably got hit too.

 

[madguy30]

Some of the flooding we are seeing lately is a result of climate change though, particularly as we see more 'deluge' type events that overwhelm the drainage systems that are currently in place. Places that have never flooded seeing floods, and places that have flooded before seeing those circumstances become more frequent.

Sure, it's a frequency thing.

There's a river near me that hasn't been to normal low summer levels in 4 or 5 years.

Can't help when movie set-like subdivisions and big stores and their parking lots are put smack dab into places that used to be marshes and such that would at least help with soaking up water.

And then people complain about flooding in the same way they complain about urban coyote populations.

Hilarious.

 

[Acylum]

Or it's a result of neary every inch of ground in this State being tiled or placed into a storm sewer and outleted into the nearest water way, rather then being soaked up by the ground.

Plus more and more area being paved. Leading into what you pointed out.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Davenport flooding is crazy. When Duck Creek flooded, we had to take in a family friend for the summer because the area where his house was (the two blocks between Brady and Harrison) was pretty much destroyed. I couldn't believe it. There are places where I can jump over Duck Creek.

I remember that. I was still in elementary school when that big Duck Creek flood happened in the 1990s. It was fortunate that it happened after the school year ended because I went to school at Adams (which is south of Duck Creek) at the time and I lived well north of the creek. Truth is, if I remember correctly, both the Division and Marquette Street bridges were built so high over Duck Creek that both streets were okay, so I guess that would have been a non factor. What wasn't so fortunate is I played Little League at Northwest Park and that flood absolutely decimated that park (as well as all of the other parks along Duck Creek as well as the bike path). I don't even remember how we got all our games in, but we did.

 

[Knownothing]

Some of the flooding we are seeing lately is a result of climate change though, particularly as we see more 'deluge' type events that overwhelm the drainage systems that are currently in place. Places that have never flooded seeing floods, and places that have flooded before seeing those circumstances become more frequent.

I disagreed. Flooding has always happened. Always will happen regardless of climate change. Water goes where it goes. People need to quit with the nonsense of everything happening being blamed on climate change. Floods happen. It has nothing to do with it 99
Percent of the time

 

[alarson]

I disagreed. Flooding has always happened. Always will happen regardless of climate change. Water goes where it goes. People need to quit with the nonsense of everything happening being blamed on climate change. Floods happen. It has nothing to do with it 99
Percent of the time

Facts dont care if you disagree.

Flooding events are becoming more frequent and more severe thanks to climate change.

 

[NorthCyd]

Or it's a result of neary every inch of ground in this State being tiled or placed into a storm sewer and outleted into the nearest water way, rather then being soaked up by the ground.

And the countless streams that have been channelized.

 

[GingerNinja]

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2018WR023749

Climate change is real but not everything is because of climate change.

 

[CascadeClone]

Climate change causing more frequent high-volume rain events, and reckless planning about water management (ie pavement, tiling too much, building in dumb places, etc) are NOT mutually exclusive contributors to flooding.

Localities need to get seriously smarter about water management, because this problem WILL get worse. And frankly, even if climate change is NOT a thing, why not plan smarter about water mgmt anyway??? I've never understood why people build in low places.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Why haven't they built a permanent flood barrier?