I guess Iowa's collapse will start in March this year...

[VegasHerky]

He has done a great job with the program, I just think there have been a few games where the team didn't look ready to play. This really could've been the year to win the Big 12. But it's one of the toughest league in the country along with the ACC so you have to bring it every night.

ISU has lost 10 home games since the start of last season. When is the last time that happened in a 2 year span?

 

[iahawks]

It almost makes you wonder who put so much talent on this team...

I'm talking pure x's and o's. Getting the team motivated and ready to play is coaching.

 

[VegasHerky]

It almost makes you wonder who put so much talent on this team...

Well are they truly that talented and underachieving or are they not as talented as some people think?

 

[CyTwins]

I'm talking pure x's and o's. Getting the team motivated and ready to play is coaching.

He's got an elite offensive team and a top 40 defensive team. I would say his X's and O's and motivation skills are pretty damn good

 

[CyTwins]

Well are they truly that talented and underachieving or are they not as talented as some people think?

This is probably the best team we've had since Tinsley was here so I think they are very talented and aren't underachieving. Elite offense and great defense is pretty special

 

[VegasHerky]

This is probably the best team we've had since Tinsley was here so I think they are very talented and aren't underachieving.

You say this is the best team at ISU in 2 decades and they will probably finish the season with double digit losses and that isnt underachieving?

 

[iahawks]

He's got an elite offensive team and a top 40 defensive team. I would say his X's and O's and motivation skills are pretty damn good

What metric do you use to determine this?

 

[VegasHerky]

 

[CyTwins]

You say this is the best team at ISU in 2 decades and they will probably finish the season with double digit losses and that isnt underachieving?

What team is better than this one since Tinsley?

 

[CyTwins]

What metric do you use to determine this?

KenPom

 

[VegasHerky]

What team is better than this one since Tinsley?

Youre the ISU fan, not me. If you say this is the best team since Tinsley's team then I will take your word for it. But if that is true, I think it would be a disappointment to lose 10+ games.

 

[CyTwins]

Youre the ISU fan, not me. If you say this is the best team since Tinsley's team then I will take your word for it. But if that is true, I think it would be a disappointment to lose 10+ games.

Niang's senior year we went 10-8 in conference play, had 12 losses but made the Sweet 16

 

[herbicide]

Right or wrong, if they blew the whistle for what is in that picture, each game would have 125 fouls.

 

[VegasHerky]

Niang's senior year we went 10-8 in conference play, had 12 losses but made the Sweet 16

Kane/Ejim team was the first one that came to my mind.

They made the Sweet 16, finished with 8 losses and ended up at #20 in KenPom.

 

[Jim Lahey]

You meant this for @Jim Lahey

Come again?

 

[VegasHerky]

Right or wrong, if they blew the whistle for what is in that picture, each game would have 125 fouls.

How about this?

 

[CyTwins]

Kane/Ejim team was the first one that came to my mind.

They made the Sweet 16, finished with 8 losses and ended up at #20 in KenPom.

That team went 11-7 in conference play which is probably where this team ends up. They did a lot better in non conference play but this team is better defensively and the same offensively more or less

 

[herbicide]

Right or wrong, if they blew the whistle for what is in that picture, each game would have 125 fouls.

@VegasHerky Seriously? Watch any (ANY!) game and see how many times the guy with the ball is grabbed in such a manner.

Now granted, I haven't seen the continuation of the play, but that still shot is far from damning...

 

[herbicide]

How about this?

I bet that one gets called 50/50. Even less so at the end of the game. Again, right or wrong. Trust me, ISU fans have been thru more than a few of these...

 

[iahawks]

I bet that one gets called 50/50. Even less so at the end of the game. Again, right or wrong. Trust me, ISU fans have been thru more than a few of these...

Didn't get called, therefore it isn't a foul.