Holy exaggeration.
You said he ruined Hilton Magic. I asked how many games you go to.
You have way too big highs and lows.
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You said he ruined Hilton Magic. I asked how many games you go to.
You have way too big highs and lows.
No, they barely made the tourney last year with Young, so I would say they are on par with their talent level. You realize they are still in most projected brackets right?
This one was on the players. Enough of the Prohm hate. They stood around and watched Baylor fly over them and rebounded basically all their misses. Pathetic.
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You don't want to open that door. I can't imagine anyone who isn't OK with TJ coming in.
And he likely won’t go to the ncaa this year and he had the best player in the country last year and under achieved.
Even Lon has rebuilding years. Even Lon makes coaching mistakes. Our ****** team and ****** coach last year blew out lons team. How’d that happen?
So if prohm makes a final 4, you’ll excuse all other bad games.
I’m holding out for O.J. Totzelberger
We don’t have final 4 talent. We have ncaa talent. Some nights we play poorly. Most teams have those nights. Some nights we play great.
Of course they are. They would be fine today. They would have been fine any of the last 3 years.
This is not so much about basketball for a lot of folks. Hasn’t been since he was hired. I remember register articles about his faith, and how people didn’t like that. That he held players accountable bothers people too.
At this point we just have to hope we get a good draw in the NCAAs. Iowa, Baylor and TCU were terrible mismatches for us with their size. Or if we do we need to figure out a new strategy.
It’s just frustrating to see the players and coaches put together a great performance in Manhattan, and then lay an egg at home. Still looking forward to March, but damn, some consistency would be nice.
It’s just frustrating to see the players and coaches put together a great performance in Manhattan, and then lay an egg at home. Still looking forward to March, but damn, some consistency would be nice.
Considering this program has never been to a Final Four thats a stupid question. Pretty sure if Prohm ever got us to a Final Four he can lose however many games he wants.
All I care about or remember is Eustachy won back to back titles and made the Elite 8, I couldnt care less what he did the other 3 years.
Frustrating all around. A few thoughts on my end:
1) What kills us is our primary ball handlers' inability to get all the way to the rim. Babb, Halli and Shayok all seem to routinely get cut off at the about 12 foot line. That leads to shorter kick outs and shorter close outs for defense. THT and Wiggy can get to the rim, but sometimes struggle with decision making. We wind up with alot of swinging the ball around the perimeter or 18 foot jumpshots. Not ideal.
2) We need to play through the post more. I never thought I'd say that with this team, but good things seem to happen with Jacobson or Lard get touches down low. We seem willing to throw it in to Jacobson but not Lard. I can't figure out why. Lard is a good passer and capable of making a good post move as well.
3) I think Hilton is unfortunately starting to have a reverse effect. I think the guys have heard the "we don't lose at home" talk and feel the extra pressure to win at home. Where they used to anticipate a run to help seal a game, we now get a little tensed up thinking "here we go again."
4) Babb having some kind of amnesty from the bench needs to end. He played 38 minutes and I just don't think he gave us much out there last night. His deep shooting is off and those pull up 18 footers aren't sustainable. Plus he just looks gassed. There were a handful of times the camera panned in on him and he just looked beat up. 23 minutes for THT is not enough. I would even love to see Talley to give us some more of that straight-line-drive ability I talked about before. His minutes need to be more in the 31-32 MPG range. He's a good player and a valuable piece, but for the sake of the team and his own health come March his minutes need reduced.
5) Prohm's refusal to adjust drives me crazy. We were getting absolutely mashed on the boards and he did nothing to try to stop it. I get we don't have Dennis Rodman on the bench. But for the love of God, try something...? Two bigs? Conditt? Talley? Chew some ass? Anything. His quote about not playing Conditt because they should have been able to handle it (paraphrasing, obviously) was upsetting. They weren't handling it. At some point you have to try something different if the situation dictates it. If nothing else to light a fire under some people.
Just get us to March healthy at this point and see if we can find a way to string together back to back (and hopefully more) games where we show a pulse.
1) What kills us is our primary ball handlers' inability to get all the way to the rim. Babb, Halli and Shayok all seem to routinely get cut off at the about 12 foot line. That leads to shorter kick outs and shorter close outs for defense. THT and Wiggy can get to the rim, but sometimes struggle with decision making. We wind up with alot of swinging the ball around the perimeter or 18 foot jumpshots. Not ideal.
2) We need to play through the post more. I never thought I'd say that with this team, but good things seem to happen with Jacobson or Lard get touches down low. We seem willing to throw it in to Jacobson but not Lard. I can't figure out why. Lard is a good passer and capable of making a good post move as well.
3) I think Hilton is unfortunately starting to have a reverse effect. I think the guys have heard the "we don't lose at home" talk and feel the extra pressure to win at home. Where they used to anticipate a run to help seal a game, we now get a little tensed up thinking "here we go again."
4) Babb having some kind of amnesty from the bench needs to end. He played 38 minutes and I just don't think he gave us much out there last night. His deep shooting is off and those pull up 18 footers aren't sustainable. Plus he just looks gassed. There were a handful of times the camera panned in on him and he just looked beat up. 23 minutes for THT is not enough. I would even love to see Talley to give us some more of that straight-line-drive ability I talked about before. His minutes need to be more in the 31-32 MPG range. He's a good player and a valuable piece, but for the sake of the team and his own health come March his minutes need reduced.
5) Prohm's refusal to adjust drives me crazy. We were getting absolutely mashed on the boards and he did nothing to try to stop it. I get we don't have Dennis Rodman on the bench. But for the love of God, try something...? Two bigs? Conditt? Talley? Chew some ass? Anything. His quote about not playing Conditt because they should have been able to handle it (paraphrasing, obviously) was upsetting. They weren't handling it. At some point you have to try something different if the situation dictates it. If nothing else to light a fire under some people.
Just get us to March healthy at this point and see if we can find a way to string together back to back (and hopefully more) games where we show a pulse.
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Well then by your standard, Fred did a bad job. He only had 1 sweet 16. Never won the conference. Didn’t even finish in second alone.
It’s idiotic to say that the consistency of prohm and hoiberg is do much worse than the inconsistency of Larry. Also I can guarantee that if Larry followed 2 conference championships with 2 ******* awful seasons, you would not be on here talking about how it is all great.
To me it's a chicken-or-the-egg type thing. The guys absolutely could have stood to have shown more effort on the boards. But when that isn't getting done, it falls on the guy making a million dollars a year to do something to fix it. Adjust the lineup. Chew some ass. Something.
You saying ISU has never been to a Final Four and then say it’s a stupid question is total you move. LOL.