You'd think even his drive charts would indicate that a guy throwing for 10 yards an attempt, 66% completions and a ~170 passer rating over a season isn't doing so by tossing a bunch of 50/50's.
All Iowa Football Team---Post Bowl Edition
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Purdy/Stanley a tossup. Purdy was good most of the season but was bad in the last two games he played. Stanley was up and down during the season and then tore up the best defense in the country. Tough call.
Tore up? You must have low standards for 21/31, 214, 3td/1int. I'd call that good but not exactly Montana. In their bowl games, Purdy got a 150 rating where Stanley got a 151.
For the college game I don't think its close; Purdy has the better metrics and upside (mobility).
Now if you're talking pro potential, Stanley is better.
Seasonal ratings per ESPN: Purdy 170. Stanley 137.
Against the best defense in the country? Stanley outplayed Tua in their respective matchups against Mississippi St. Comparing bowl game ratings is kind of silly considering the difference in quality of defenses they were up against.
Just going off of bowl games, then Stanley>>>>>Purdy. Stanley faced a top 5 defense.
The counter to that is:
Stanley basically didn't screw anything up that game, which of course is basically all he had to do, and he did very well. A few good/great throws.
Whereas for ISU, replace Purdy with an average QB they don't stand a chance let alone even be in that bowl game to begin with.
Let me ask you guys this... Lets pretend the two QBs do a team swap.
- Would ISU fare better with Stanley?
- Qould Iowa fare better with Purdy?
For Iowa I can see it being much more debatable. Stanley has a stronger arm (not by much) and is bigger/taller. Would that offset Purdy's mobility/running advantage?
Nah. Has Purdy ever taken a snap from under center? Like, in his entire life? That's what Iowa does. No way either team would be better off with the other guy because of the different approach to offense. Each guy is well suited for the system he's in.
Yes, in fact he took under center snaps this year for ISU. Yes, I was shocked too.
Mostly ISU's "different approach to offense" is due to crappy Oline play. Campbell is on record countless times wanting to be a run first offense.
Of course that doesn't change the metrics, which favor Purdy by quite a bit.
But to the original point, could Purdy thrive under center at Iowa? I think so. Without a serviceable line at ISU I don't think the same could be said with Stanley @ ISU.
He definitely has the skills and talent, it all just needs refined. Sometimes he locks in to dangerous options unnecessarily, and sometimes he struggles identifying where pressure is coming from and how to deal with it. Both of those I think are coachable; if those are his biggest weaknesses after 1 year, we're in a good spot.
How many was that?
There's a difference between a run first philosophy and the scheme from which you do it. There's no denying that Purdy lives in a shotgun, spread it out, lots of motion, look to the sideline at the last second to see what to do world. That's not what Iowa does. He'd be under center most of the time, reading the D and making adjustments at the LOS himself.
ISU much better off with Purdy. Iowa much better off with Stanley.
Stanley also has a ton of responsibility pre-snap- much, much more than your average college QB- which, from what I have seen, is a large part of his attractiveness to NFL teams/scouts. I find it hard to believe that a true freshman would be able to replicate Stanley’s mastery of Iowa’s offensive system.
Stanley was awful, no way around it. Probably cost Iowa a division title. His inconsistency is starting to get frustrating.
-Benji on Oct 27th.
I can't quote because the thread is locked.
https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/pedo-state-vs-fake-ids.242346/page-7#post-6364011
Both are good and valid points that don't necessarily disagree with my question about swapping. My point is with a non running threat QB at ISU, the offense is handcuffed by personnel and not scheme. Where at Iowa, a running threat at QB would add another dimension.
Of course part of all this a true freshman vs a junior.
Sure it would add another dimension but it also would be a step backwards in other aspects of QB play needed to succeed in Iowa's offense.
Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha quote? Stanley had a bad game (I seem to recall many Iowa State fans excusing Purdy’s poor performance against Drake due to the weather), that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a strong grasp of Iowa’s offensive system.
Dude, you are saying mastery on one post, and then saying he's inconsistent and cost Iowa a division (did you throw anyone else under the bus?).
You are painting the broad spectrum here, not me.