Who made the better hire KU or KSU?
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I'll go with neither. I hope they are both disastrous picks.
Good things about both. Questions about both.
I’m not scared of either hire.
I’m not scared of either hire.
I don't see Miles as being able to get the talent that he could at LSU or OSU, Kileman has shown the ability to identify talent outside of 3+ star recruits
I think Miles is a stop gap for KU. Try and raise some excitement for the program then in a few years promote a younger assistant.
I think it depends on what you consider better. Kleinman was hired to win ball games and maintain what Snyder built. Miles was hired for his name in the hopes the media attention will build some hype and get donors and fans involved in the program. Two completely different agendas.
I think as far as an initial, win the press conference thing it is Miles. But I don't know if either will have great success at their schools.
Klieman for me and its not close. Miles may win and he will also leave at the drop of a hat. Klieman is a good coach, he wins and is willing to stay. For places like us, ku and kstate - not the most desirable places on the football map - wanting to stay is a big thing for me. If your goal is success every 20 years, keep hiring miles, chizik, and charlie weiss. For sustained success, go hire campbell, klieman, snyderetc. and hope you hit on one.
Easily Kleinman, Miles is a short term hire, I won't go as far as calling him a solution. He's too old to be there very long, it's like KU is preparing to make the job better for the guy that replaces him in 3 years.
I went with the KSU hire, because KU has already tried to hire a "proven winner" couple times in the last decade, with disastrous results. Think they are still paying for a those guys plus Beaty.
Still don't know if the KSU hire is a great one. It will take a couple years to see the results. What he does in terms of assistant coaches will determine how fast a start he gets.
Still don't know if the KSU hire is a great one. It will take a couple years to see the results. What he does in terms of assistant coaches will determine how fast a start he gets.
[QUOTE="Halincandenza, post: 6438012, member: 39959"]I think as far as an initial, win the press conference thing it is Miles. But I don't know if either will have great success at their schools.[/QUOTE]
You must have missed all the videos of his press conference.
You must have missed all the videos of his press conference.
Given KU's options, I'll go with them. Getting any kind of name associated with that program is a good thing for them. They will have recruits at least look at them that would have never considered them in the past. KU's expectations are gonna be much lower as well.
KSU better hope they don't start losing to KU in football or their fans will lose their minds. I'm not a drama-loving guy whatsoever, but both schools having new coaches is gonna make sports radio fun next fall.
I do think KSU got the better coach (at this point in their respective careers anyway)
KSU better hope they don't start losing to KU in football or their fans will lose their minds. I'm not a drama-loving guy whatsoever, but both schools having new coaches is gonna make sports radio fun next fall.
I do think KSU got the better coach (at this point in their respective careers anyway)
Except they haven't hired a proven power 5 winner. They hired Weis who was a coordinator and then the Buffalo coach and then another coordinator. This is the first coach that they have hired that I can remember who is a successful power 5 coach.
Miles has had sustained success as a power 5 head coach. That is way different than Chizik or Weiss.
Miles must not be as good of a coach as I always thought if he sat out a year and came back to coach Kansas. Going with a big name doesn't equal success at a school like Kansas, just look at Illinois to see how their season just went under Lovie. Klienman certainly seems like the type of guy that could follow the same recipe for success that Snyder did, but I'm not convinced he's a wizard yet. With CMC, I'm unafraid of any big 12 offseason hires.
It's k state because there's no way any hire is gonna fix KU