Pat Forde on Kansas' hoops recruiting (FBI-related)

No, it's the "do the math" conversation. Let's step back a sec and remember why this entire thing is out in the open. We're hearing this all about Adidas only because some moron financial advisor Marty Blazer got busted by the SEC for siphoning off a bunch of money from his clients, many of whom were professional athletes, so he could finance some below B-rate movies named "Mafia the Movie" and "Sibling". I mean, this is how ridiculous this whole thing is. All this going on and it's only out from under the rock due to sheer dumb luck and stupidity by some glorified dime-store hustler.

Nike is this stuff x1000. You don't get a 93% market share in as huge a business as the multi-billion dollar world of basketball shoes sales by just having a cooler product. They're friggin' leather shoes with rubber soles; not enough quality difference between any of them for one to have a 93% market share. The Nike network is well funded, well manned, deeply entrenched and humming along. Kansas doesn't need an excuse for understanding how to function at a very high level within the ever changing laws of the sport.

Precedent has been set as to what is acceptable. From the White House, to the Supreme Court to NCAA sports programs, money and power run it all. It stinks that this is the current reality but there it is. Find things you love within the framework of this reality and enjoy your time on this earth.

Heck, maybe this Blazer guy and this Gassnola guy will get together and write a script for this B-Movie knockoff and strike it rich. Ah, the American Dream; making money off celebrating your foolishness. Maybe they'll ascend to the pinnacle of American society and get a reality series...

So what you're saying is that to get to the top of the shoe world, you have to cheat? ...just like college basketball?
 
Well at least you finally dropped the charade that KU was clean in all this. Nice to see you openly embrace the cheating Tuco.
I never said anything about them being "clean" or "not clean". They are both the benefactors and the victims of a dirty system. For every 10 kids like Tarczewski & Ayton whom they spend years recruiting only to lose to Arizona or some other Nike school thanks to Nike money, they get one thanks in part to Adidas money.

Any of the top tier schools that get themselves caught getting involved in the process are simply stupid. There is no need for that any more; the dirty shoe money system is a polluted river that flows whether you stand in it pointing towards your shore or not. Maybe KU would lose a few less kids to Nike schools Arizona, Duke or Kentucky if they were more active participants in the muck but they appear not to be.
 
So what you're saying is that to get to the top of the shoe world, you have to cheat? ...just like college basketball?
No, that's not what I am saying at all. To "get" to the top of the shoe world, you have to be one of the best programs in the nation, as Kansas has been for generations. Trust me, if Iowa State was making a Final Four every 5 years and one the top of the sport for more than a decade, they'd see more guys like Wiggington and THT magically flow to them.
 
I had a conversation with a KU fan today who went from "KU didn't do anything wrong" to "everybody is doing it so it's OK" and back again several times during the conversation. No clue that he was contradicting himself within the conversation. KU fans need to get their defense straight, did KU do nothing wrong or are they just cheating because everyone is? Can't be both.
Nah, he's just choosing his words wrong. KU didn't do anything wrong and KU is benefitting from it.
 
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I never said anything about them being "clean" or "not clean". They are both the benefactors and the victims of a dirty system. For every 10 kids like Tarczewski & Ayton whom they spend years recruiting only to lose to Arizona or some other Nike school thanks to Nike money, they get one thanks in part to Adidas money.

Any of the top tier schools that get themselves caught getting involved in the process are simply stupid. There is no need for that any more; the dirty shoe money system is a polluted river that flows whether you stand in it pointing towards your shore or not. Maybe KU would lose a few less kids to Nike schools Arizona, Duke or Kentucky if they were more active participants in the muck but they appear not to be.

This actually made me laugh out loud. Well done
 
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No, that's not what I am saying at all. To "get" to the top of the shoe world, you have to be one of the best programs in the nation, as Kansas has been for generations. Trust me, if Iowa State was making a Final Four every 5 years and one the top of the sport for more than a decade, they'd see more guys like Wiggington and THT magically flow to them.


You said Nike cheats as much as Adidas, correct?
 
Tuco currently:

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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-knew-adidas-role-silvio-de-sousa-recruitment

Big news.

On Sept. 19, 2017, three days before Kansas announced that it had agreed to a 12-year, $191 million contract extension with Adidas, Gassnola texted Self and thanked him for helping the sponsorship deal get done.

Self responded: "I'm happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys."

Gassnola replied: "In my mind, it's KU, bill self. Everyone else fall into line. Too [expletive] bad. That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I am RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics [sic] and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

Self responded: "That's how ur works. At UNC and Duke." Gassnola replied at Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola wrote. "I have never let you down. Except Dyondre lol. We will get it right."
 
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-knew-adidas-role-silvio-de-sousa-recruitment

Big news.

On Sept. 19, 2017, three days before Kansas announced that it had agreed to a 12-year, $191 million contract extension with Adidas, Gassnola texted Self and thanked him for helping the sponsorship deal get done.

Self responded: "I'm happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys."

Gassnola replied: "In my mind, it's KU, bill self. Everyone else fall into line. Too [expletive] bad. That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I am RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics [sic] and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

Self responded: "That's how ur works. At UNC and Duke." Gassnola replied at Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola wrote. "I have never let you down. Except Dyondre lol. We will get it right."

The texts between Preston and his mom about the car are also gold. Should dig up some old Self quotes about how that was just a minor question about the registration.
 
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-knew-adidas-role-silvio-de-sousa-recruitment

Big news.

On Sept. 19, 2017, three days before Kansas announced that it had agreed to a 12-year, $191 million contract extension with Adidas, Gassnola texted Self and thanked him for helping the sponsorship deal get done.

Self responded: "I'm happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys."

Gassnola replied: "In my mind, it's KU, bill self. Everyone else fall into line. Too [expletive] bad. That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I am RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics [sic] and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind."

Self responded: "That's how ur works. At UNC and Duke." Gassnola replied at Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola wrote. "I have never let you down. Except Dyondre lol. We will get it right."
This is a smoking cannon.
 

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