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What did ESPNs announcers think of Kirk letting CJ get blasted over and over and over?I get you being chaffed by it.
I think if you coached the kid it counts. It’s you trolls that flop around more than a fish out of water.
College football is all about getting players drafted. Wins don't really matter
Glad you agree. Have a good one Gonz!
Right, so saying Georgia, FSU, Miami, etc. losing their coaches two years ago somehow affects the perception of those programs in terms of putting guys into the NFL is just flat stupid. We agree.
Yes and no.
I guess we have season tickets for a different reasons. I have tickets and hope they win. If you have tickets, or if you did, you would rather hope they get players drafted. I don’t care if we have 0 players drafted and win the conference. I would take that year in and year out.
You should talk to the guys who were here on draft day for hours with hundreds of posts about Lazard getting drafted. They seemed to care a whole lot.
I'd say losing 1 long term starter (AL).Iowa fans are notorious for looking at players that are relatively unproven and thinking they can smell two right in and perform with little or no drop off. You’re losing 2? Long term starters one of which was arguably the best wide receiver in the history of ISU football.
Nah, we agreed that winning programs get players drafted and getting players drafted has a huge impact on the perception of a program.
No matter what we use to evaluate a college football program, winning or getting guys to the NFL, the results are still the same for ISU......terrible.
No matter how much you say you are here for the second best Hawkeye coverage, you are still lurking in the baseball forums, starting a thread that has zero to do with Iowa (Michigan State), and make posts about Iowa State.No matter what we use to evaluate a college football program, winning or getting guys to the NFL, the results are still the same for ISU......terrible.
No you said players getting drafted was the most important thing for perception. You didn't say anything about winning
Right. Do you not think the perception of the quality of a college football program is determined largely by how many guys they put into the NFL?
ISU football was terrible pre CMC. No one is arguing that
This is the dumbest thing you've said on here
ISU football has a winning percentage of 44% under CMC.
ISU football has a winning percentage of 43.5% all time.