Graham Couch: Iowa Basketball is a mid-major roster
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Ive admitted CMC is a good coach. Dont you think 2 years into his career at a P5 program is a little premature to declare him a great coach?
No, KF runs laps around him on the recruiting trail and on the field.
Best of luck to ISU the other 11 games of the season though.
Also back to basketball, Prohm has regressed some at ISU. As an Iowa fan I would consider Hoiberg the better coach of the 2. Until Prohm gets past the round of 32 again I wouldnt consider him great either.
He is better than Fran at the moment though. That much is true.
He is better than Fran at the moment though. That much is true.
It's funny you're basing that off recruiting rankings but you will talk about how good Locure is when you guys sign him despite his ranking
No, he crossed into being a great coach when he had three straight 10 win seasons and finished Top 10 in the AP poll 3 years in a row.
So I just want to be sure that at this point in CMC's career at ISU ( 2 years) he is not better than Kirk in his second year at Iowa?
Watch out more math..
CMC first two years
11-14 (0.44)
Ferentz first two years
4-19 (.17)
So by the numbers, Ferentz would be the better coach at this point in his career? Or are we comparing 2 years vs 19 years again? Its important to understand your consistency. Just want to clarify what makes a good coach.
It's crazy to think Kirk used to be a great coach back in the 2000s
Ive admitted CMC is a good coach. Dont you think 2 years into his career at a P5 program is a little premature to declare him a great coach?
This is for @derpyherky
This is for @derpyherky
Wait, what? I have no idea what you're talking about. I was responding to YeahBuddy's convo with Twins about how Campbell wasn't great and who the best in the state was. I don't disagree Ferentz is the better/more respected coach, and for good reason, but to act as if he was never under .500 is not fair. And to act as if Matt Campbell isn't a good coach because he had a dumpster fire year one, and until he's he's above .500 we can't even have that discussion, is not a very legitimate argument in my mind. But that's just my opinion.
Admittedly, I wrote my post before I saw YeahBuddy's follow up of, "let's wait until he gets above .500" so it was on the basis that he didn't say that.
Locure is plan C. I will not be happy with him and Patrick, but with him and Patrick to go along with another top 100 guy I can go for.
@YeahBuddy
Where did I state he was a great coach?
(debate aside, until there is clear criteria of what good vs great vs epic, and so on were all debating a moot point, do you agree?)
I am talkin 2018... at this point in MC career vs Kirk at the present TIME. Right now Kirk is better. Is this really that hard
Then the comparison @CyTwins made is pretty accurate as CMC has settled for a lot of plan C's when going up against KF and staff for the TOE on the recruiting trail.
OH, my bad then. I wasnt taking that angle because I wasnt worried about the win percentage
Well you fail to understand the difference of a coach 2 years into rebuilding a program and a coach who has been somewhere for 19 years. Its really hard to compare who is the "better" coach at this point in time due to different tenures (statistically).
I have read some things since yesterday that have me a little more skeptical. Things about his motor and effort have kind of turned me off TBH. I think he is a good player, but he is not the missing piece like Carton could be.
It's not hard, its just a dumb argument. It's like (broad example here and not saying they are comparable to these GOATS) but it's like saying that Lebron isn't as good as Jordan in Lebron's second year in the NBA. No duh. But that doesn't mean that Lebron shouldn't get all the respect he deserves for what he is doing in the present moment.
Why? right now Kirk is better. Next offseason MC could take that title. It really is not that hard.